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Bill and Gloria are a tremendous asset to the local community and talented artists in their own right. It’s wonderful to see Bill’s new music video which features the area. This will help spread the word about our community and generate interest in our area. Plus…it’s just a great video with fab music! Thanks Bill and Nikolas Duarte for producing something memorable for the Miami-Globe area.
We have posted the Open Letter of Response by Thea Wilshire, Chairperson of Globe’s Parks and Recreation Committee, on a separate post since it covers so much information. It shows the efforts being made to create a win-win for both parties whose interests and priorities are competing for the same ground.
Wilshire makes several good points in outlining the history and current status of the park and which reflect the City’s willingness to work on a solution which will satisfy the needs of both.
You can catch the full post under: 14 Facts: Dog Park vs Little League.
Thank you, Thea, for taking the time to respond to my post.
You covered a lot of ground and I appreciate it.
I believe with that with communication between all parties-
dog owners, sports fans, and our Globe-Miami neighbors, we
can create a spectacular site for the community.
While I did my best to keep my post unbiased, anyone who knows
me knows I support a change, and I believe the Pioneer Hills site,
with some polishing, just might be it. It’s an excellent opportunity to
create a truly special Dog Park!
Good job Thea! What great information.
You have put much time and effort in being sure we are all well informed of the history, and where were at currently with the dog park.
You are a voice I’m proud to have on my City Council
What a great job the people of Globe did putting on a grand cinco de mayo celebration. I an an outta towner and I can truely see the amount of effort put in. I got to meet the mayor in person and I know he has great plans for Globe. Keep up the good work.
Great reporting on Globe’s big Cinco de Mayo celebration! You addressed the issues surrounding this event accurately and in a balanced way.
I do hope the event paid for itself … and as a Downtown Globe business owner, I enthusiastically support the innovative efforts to make this event a big success. I shake my head head in dismay when I hear the naysayers whine & criticize. Kudos to the planners & doers — who dare to shake up the status quo by taking a chance on a special new event for our community.
And… Little Joe y la familia was fabulous! The night breeze was a bit chilly, but the performance was hot!
Thea, thank you for the comprehensive account as to how this issue/debate has evolved. My knowledge of this matter, until very recently, has come to me second-hand.
In spite of the open, transparent nature of the dialogue you describe with all parties concerned, there seems to have been considerable confusion surrounding the decision-making process. Perhaps some of this confusion results from people hearing different accounts…..and, the inability for all interested parties to gather together at the same time to hear the same thing and express concerns etc. So, as new ideas are floated & discussed, and the process evolves….not everyone is hearing the same thing. Anxiety levels rise.
One thing I was confused about pertains to the ultimate authority in this matter. Thea, you state above that the City Manager made the original decision to establish the Dog Park, therefore can revisit & change that decision without Council approval. Understood. However, at the Parks & Rec meeting a couple weeks ago, I left believing that Council action would be required. I do not mean to be trivial…..however, that knowledge is important to individuals attempting to understand how they can influence the decision-making process.
Regarding the ‘utilization review’ —- I for one, was most interested in learning why it is believed that baseball activities will automatically return to the field in question. Observation by myself and others during the 2-3 years PRIOR to Dog Park designation reveals that the field was seldom utilized by baseball kids. VERY SELDOM. Yet, we know that the current site is utilized by dog owners DAILY, all year long. A response to this observation/question should be explained in such a Review.
There is no doubt in my mind as to the good-faith attempt by you and others to facilitate a win-win result for the entire community (including our dogs!) — and it seems as though all stake-holders are beginning to get ‘on the same page’ in terms of timely, accurate information.
Thanks for your dedication to this important community issue.
We went twice on Saturday: in the afternoon to see Azetca del Sol Mariachi (extremely talented) and the dancing horses (a first for me: WOW!)- and then for the Little Joe show at night. WHAT A FABULOUS CONCERT! Even though it was a relatively small crowd, he sand, he rocked, and he made some wise comments about the ridiculous new AZ immigration bill. His parting words were, “Do not be oppressed!”
Everything- the bands, the grounds, the vendors and the facilities- were professionally presented, and I wish more folks were there to experience and appreciate it.
One suggestion, though, for next year: improved signage. I live here, and it took me awhile to find it!
As an owner of 3 dogs who consume an awful lot of my time and affection I am very interested in the Dog Park debate. We take our dogs to the park twice a day when at all possible. This morning was a beautiful Globe morning and in the 30 minutes we were there 10 furry friends shared the park. Last evening 5 dogs were chasing each other around with us.
Having said that, I am always aware when we are there that it is, or was, a baseball field. If it is truly needed for a ball park for children then I do not have a problem turning it back to that use. However, we do need a dog park. We need it for our own community and for the RV travelers and visitors to our area. We now have 3 RV parks and plans for 2 more. These people travel with their pets and their money. They will stay longer in an area where they feel that they and their pets are welcome. The dog park committee, my husband being one of the members, has adamatly rejected the Pioneer Hills site. They are representing the feelings of most dog owners. I do not feel so strongly. Money is tight for many of us right now and a site already owned by the city and already fenced is a plus. If the city is willing to help and work with us I feel we should listen. There is much more to be discussed and I hope everyone involved will keep a cool head and an open mind and get this resolved. One question I have is whether or not the Pioneer Hills neighborhood wants us there. Thanks for the opportunity to comment.
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Jim Moss’ article is right on target: vote racial profilers out of office now!
Problem is: we don’t have a party to vote into power that will heed the voice of the people who voted them in: the Obama administration promised comprehensive immigration reform in its first year. On May Day 2010, after more than a year of Obama’s inaction on his promise, hundreds of thousands of us marched in more than 100 cities in the U.S. against ICE raids in Latin@ workplaces and communities, against deporations, for immediate regularization of immigration status for all, against ‘guest’ worker programs, against I-Verify checks and for comprehensive immigration reform and all we’ve gotten is more of the same.
What the working people of the United States need is an independent labor party beholden to no one but the people who vote for it, not to corporations, oil companies (e.g. BP) and banks that are ‘too big to fail’. Only an independent labor party will, ultimately, wrest power from the twin parties of tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum and put it in the hands of miners, smelter workers, teachers and other union workers who stand in defense of their rights and of their immigrant sisters and brothers regardless of their immigration status.
Yes!
Here’s my speech. Fossil fuels are fuels formed by natural resources such as anaerobic decomposition of buried dead organisms. The age of the organisms and their resulting fossil fuels is typically millions of years, and sometimes exceeds 650 million years.
So here is my NEW RULE concerning fossil fuels: If you don’t believe in evolution and you don’t believe the world is millions of years old, you are not allowed to vote, drill, lobby or profit from the capitalistic, greed-filled free-for-all of fossil fuel getting and selling.
If you do profit from something you deem ‘not in line with our biblical beliefs’, you are either investing in a fairy tale, or you are making money off of ‘satan’s big lie’….both which are beneath you. Fossil fuels are only usable for those who believe in Evolution…everyone else has to use apples, burning bushes and fig leaves. In that order.
Check out the recent piece in the Courier-Journal in July 2010 (https://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100705/NEWS01/7050312/Behind-the-Bars-Experts-question-benefits-of-private-prisons) which outlined a few discrepancies stating among other things “…since the mid-1990s, according to researchers at the Federal Bureau of Prisons, ” several studies, have questioned the private prison industry’s claims, especially with respect to cost savings and security.” The payscale for Private Prison Guards is closer to $8 – $10/hour , NOT the $33,000 being touted by the Emerald Companies – and no where near the rumored $47,000 which is a figure floating around the local jail house.
Thanks for unmasking the paid-for ‘experts’ of the private prison industry.
It really is shameful when defenders of a point-of-view KNOWINGLY recite the phony research statistics and talking points of industry insiders.
And, it is disappointing when elected officials depend upon this phony research to justify votes on important resolutions. Sometimes this happens unwittingly…….it is a matter of failure to conduct due-diligence. That can be forgiven if & when the elected official acknowledges his/her error, and fixes the mistaken vote.
Unfortunately, some officials choose to hold on to misguided, inaccurate information…….why? Perhaps stubborn pride, arrogance, ignorance, or political expediency….
Thanks for reprinting this June 30 Silver Belt piece.
The silver lining in the private prison debate…… the bright light shined upon a very basic problem surrounding the EDC.
Any entity funded with taxpayer dollars that is not completely transparent and accountable must be terminated.
Ask any taxpayer/citizen.
I was startled to hear that the city of Globe is considering investing in a private prison enterprise for the Globe Miami area.
Although the promise of jobs is certainly attractive- as is the expansion of the tax base,a couple of points in the proposal raise alarm bells for me.
How likely is it In the current economy that a prison will be able to provide both of these benefits? In a time of contracting state budgets, is it realistic to believe that a prison (which taxpayers have indeed invested in by floating a bond) will fill with prisoners- either federal or state? How long will the city be servicing the bonds it is expected to float? And what happens if for any reason the prison fails to happen? Will the city be left with bond debt and no additional revenues to service it?
Is the Old Dominion Mine Park in Miami AZ.?
It’s basically located across from the Chamber of Commerce on Hwy 60 between Globe and Miami. The entrance will be where DeMarco’s Restaurant is and you just follow the road up the hill.
The AZ Department of Corrections called me this morning to set the record straight on my statement that the RFP had been canceled “because the State did not need the beds.” NO, says DOC. They simply pulled this RFP to allow them to re-write the criteria and will RE-ISSUE THE RFP to the same parties “in about a month.” The DOC representative indicated the new criteria was a result of what happened in Kingman, but he was not at liberty to say what the new criteria would include.
This clarifies two KEY issues:
This issue of a private prison locating in GLOBE is Far from Over. It is more important than ever to have the Globe City Council recind their invitation to site a BIG for-profit prison in this town.
And the fact that the DOC called on my article in GMTnewsnviews, indicates they are focused on this area.
Hmm, It is hard to tell if the Globe City Councilmen/Councilwomen are listening. If not maybe a recall or two is in order.
Frankly, we don’t want ANY prisons in Globe- private or otherwise. The Mayor/Council Members talk of jobs as being important, but a man I met today- who worked at a prison- told me, “You get what you pay for, and those guards are at the bottom of the pay scale. Think about it.” A minimum-wage guard with a GED who is responsible for approximately 34 prisoners- the average at for-profit prisons… where violence between inmate on inmate and inmate on guard are out of control…… And private prisons have a 50% turnover rate- look it up, folks. The info is out there.
And while I’m sure there are folks who are seeking employment in Globe, if ‘senior’ guards, company men and others are transferred here, how many real jobs would there be? AND WHO WOULD WANT THEM FOR LONG?
Perhaps we should task the EDC to pursue small manufacturers; small to mid-size firms who produce a quality product with 30-75 workers- because let’s face it: most of the ‘big’ jobs- cars, furniture & clothing go overseas. The days of American firms opening huge factories Stateside are over.
Therese Hicks wants to (perhaps) open a small company here? HELP HER OUT. And find more like her.
Globe has plenty to offer. Private prisons are bad business any way you look at it, and the City Council wants to
shrug their shoulders helplessly, saying it’s probably inevitable? Let’s see some spine.
My father and uncle both worked at the mine, Ambrose and George. Both were from Briber which I believe to have been Yugoslavia at the time of their birth. George suffered from what was diagnosed as miners TB and died at Globe.
A few years ago I came to the mine with my oldest brother, oldest sister, a nephew and his wife and one of my daughters along with one of my grandsons. We were given a private tour for which all of us still surviving will always be thankful. I have been back one more time since. On that trip we donated some type of safety award given our dad to the museum across the street from the mine.
My dad was taught to be a tombstone cutter in his home country and cut one stone in the USA this was for his brother George. We found this stone at the cemetary at Globe. We were overwhelmed.
Since that trip my last two brothers and oldest sister have both died. As a family I believe we are coming back to Globe at least one more time and find the article about the park very exciting.
This trip we will probably stay at the Noftsger Hill Inn and am looking forward to making contact with any or all of you to thank you for your efforts.
Louie Kaliman
Tacoma, Wa.
I believe one of my relative’s son worked there. He listed it as his place of work on his draft card. His name was Joel Allen Gibson. He was a hoisting engineer. Wish I could find out more about him.
Cheryl
Beautiful. Thank you.
what an interesting article – unfortunate though Helen or Les High were not mentioned.
L.A. High
If there were errors of omissions, they were mine. John Michael submitted 13 pages of story, which I had to edit down to 1000 words for this particular issue. Since then I have heard from others about their memories and hope to add their comments here. Or in a future story. Do tell… who are the Helen and Les High you mention? It would be great to add to the story on this blog, since it keeps all the stories together. If you’d like to tell me the story in person, call me. 928-701-3320. I also heard from a waitress, who is now in her 90’s, who worked at the Copper Hills for 13 years. I plan on visiting with her next week. Sooo many good stories came out of the Copper Hills…they could fill a book. Please share.
I’ve finally come to terms with my imperfect life and now look upon it quite fondly. It took just a mere half century!
How special that Ralph was thinking of you when he laid that row of tile. And thank you too for sharing the story with all of us and hence keeping Ralph’s memory alive.
Wonderful~ and heartfelt… that is why I love the quilts with the stuffing coming out of them. ~It just means that they were loved even more!! ~I miss Ralph too, thank-you for the sil story… lovin’ u!!
Jim Moss said it best when he announced, “We have done our homework”. He has provided
an amazing amount of documentation on why private prisons aren’t right in general and are
specifically a poor choice for small communities. He has gathered this information through
a tremendous amount of research and fact finding. This is called due diligence, and it has to
be done- and has been done by him- before one can truly see the big picture and the consequences
which will ensue. Here’s hoping our elected officials and those at the EDC are listening.
At least you should look at thecca360.com web site and get a second point of view. Journalism is to be balanced and at least getting the other side of the story should be in the cards.
Got some additional press on our fight from a national watch dog site. See: https://arizonaprisonwatch.blogspot.com/2010/11/globe-city-of-hospitalitys-field-of.html
Some readers may have missed the link that bushbrowser was trying to provide so here it is:
https://www.thecca360.com. Happy to provide it, although I would argue that this does little to provide an un-biased look at the company or the industry. It’s a Big Press release. Give us some outside information – not funded by CCA.
Here is the response by the Texas watchdog group which covers CCA and the industry about this site: https://www.texasprisonbidness.org/scandals/feeling-heat-corrections-corp-launches-cca-360-respond-critics
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=131191523&ps=cprs
Another NPR investigation. Good. Toward the end he talks about the issue of Private vs Public prison guards, and says his experience is that there is more contraband and drugs in private prison because the wage scale is sooooo low that the guards are tempted to supplement. Does this sound like something you want in your neighborhood?
Dang, Darin. I had to look up “excoriate” in the dictionary.
Fry’s has a nice array of Hanes socks, undies and undershirts. I understand Hanes socks are made in North Carolina.
Well written. I live in Mesa but find myself drawn to drive up to Globe for no reason at all…just to be there, at least 4 or 5 times a year. I buy local, and think it’s great that others are sharing their like-minded opinions, keep it up!!!
Sincerely,
Laura Hamlin from Mesa.
What a refreshing meeting at the State Capitol yesterday!
It was refreshing to speak with elected officials who understand the democratic principles of representation and respecting the voices of their constituents.
This private prison issue here in Globe should have been resolved shortly after Sept. 13, when citizens opposed presented a compelling case to Globe City Council. At that time, 1000+ citizens had signed a petition asking Council to pass a Resolution opposing any prison project for our community. Instead, the half dozen or so local officials advocating a private prison dug in stubbornly, ignored citizen opposition, and attempted to confuse the public. This sort of response from local ‘leaders’ is quite inexplicable.
I have always believed that substantial ‘people power’ could stop any prison project. What was refreshing about yesterday’s meeting at the State Capitol, was hearing the emphatic statements from State officials that validated my belief. The AZDOC, nor State Senators, have any interest whatsoever in siting a prison in a community where there is substantial opposition.
If there was ever a community that has demonstrated substantial opposition — it is Globe.
Globe does not need these kind of jobs. The average salary of $43,500 is OK but we do not need people working. Will the state take our other prison away? Send it to Show Low or Superior they need the work we don’t. Good job Terry.
Think about this for a second. The local jail pays guards $29,000. The State Prison starts them out at $31,000. The Private Prisons who SAY they save the State money by spending less money to incarcerate prisoners necessarily pay LESS than State-run prisons. I suspect you are getting your $43,000 from the private prison operators themselves? That would be called a sales-pitch. The facts simply do not bear out. Guards at these facilities make LESS MONEY and have little or no training.
And while we’re on the subject…companies from Freeport McMoran to Walmart have a terrible time filling job positions! Not because of a lack of applicants. But because no one can pass a drug test. And we think we’re going to staff a prison with 1000 inmates and $13/hour guards which will come from a job pool which has baffled Walmart? And this is a good plan?
Yeah, greeaaat plan!
Forty-three grand a year is a fantasy – it looks good on paper, but makes no
sense when one looks at the bottom line of the Private Prison Promoters,
which is filling THEIR pockets and their SHAREHOLDERS pockets with filthy lucre.
Glad to hear that Allen, Pearce & Ryan are hearing the will of the people,
because it seems the Globe City Council still isn’t listening… even though
we’ve been speaking LOUD & CLEAR since April.
Every time I hear that story about the family with the broken down car, it gets embellished. As far as Danko’s generosity is concerned, it is more overbrown than factual. I suspect that the family, of Mexican decent, was scaring away customers from the Copper Hills as, unfortunately, a lot of prejudice still exists in some of these small towns.
Danko had to get rid of them somehow. What better way than to fix their car so that they could leave. He put them up overnight because it takes time to do transmissions. If you want to call that generous, fine. He was generous when he benefitted also.
Like the time he poured money into his sister’s deteriorating house. He supposedly did this to “help” her. Of course, an important detail in this altruistic act was the fact that his name was also on the deed. How it got there is open to speculation as the secret died with him. If someone tells me that he would have spent the money on repairs and improvements without his name on the deed, then I would have some prime Florida real estate to sell them.
I received a telephone call one evening from a local hospital. It seems that our generous benefactor was slow in paying his hospital bill. Apparently they thought maybe some of his wealth rubbed off on me. Well, I redirected them back to the rightful debtor. Apparently there is no glory is giving large amounts of money to people you owe.
In fact, the more insistent they were, the more resistant he became. He even went to the extreme of skillfully avoiding arrest in the State of California in order to get out of paying some traffic tickets.
Obviously, Danko was a complex man. He was, by no means, a tightwad. I ate and slept at his house, as well as at his hotel and restaurant. He once had a chance encounter with my dad (his brother) in downtown Phoenix. During their conversation, he gave my father a $100 bill as a gift. Later, my dad gave it to me.
So I tell it like it was, both the good and the bad. To his surviving family I say this: You know where you can find me. Also, I’ll tell you this: When I was alone one night shortly after his death, I wept (God is my witness).
Bill Gurovich
Ever since we posted this story in the paper and on-line I’ve been inundated with people who have their own “Danko” story to tell. They have pulled me over in the street, and phoned me to share their stories. Most – come with a smile for the remembrance. Maybe a wink and a nod when talking about Danko’s shenanigans. Unfortunately, most of them aren’t computer savvy so their comments don’t make it to this format. I appreciate your comment for it’s contribution to the full story of the man. Undoubtedly, he was not a saint. But he left a big hole in the community when he was gone. Something they are still talkin’ about.
Love your way with words, Darin…
“…and the ‘Glamour Safeway’, on US 60, where I pretend I’m in Sedona, shopping for prosciutto and melon).”
LOL
“A step back in time” is right. There was nothing ‘paper or plastic’ about this dining experience while watching the scenery roll by.
The food looked ‘magazine perfect’ and was excellent! Thank you to the entire Copper Spike crew for re creating this tasty rail journey!
Great story! I have all my old ones and my mother gave me a buch of old ones too! All those we made thru the years have wonderful memories also.
Man oh moan! I inherited the family ornaments. There were some beauties! My favorites were / are the horns. Tradition has it that each time that they are unwrapped and before they are hung, they MUST of course, be “tooted” ! There was an airplane, (totally fantastic) and several others. A couple of years ago however, I made the mistake of putting them on the tree when we had a kitten in the house. There was a chase and a crash and, well, a LOT of tears and cursing. The tree leg broke and it fell down, taking several ornaments with it. Some were saved, but many were lost.
Really lovely article, Darin. I was home in Michigan last Christmas and got to pull out that box with the yellowed tissue paper and exclaim over those the 1950 glass delights!
I had a hard time relating to DL, but I felt a real connection with Darin in this article.
Out of the 350 postcards sent out how many responses have actually come back? I have talked with approximately 40 people who are local citizens and they don’t have any objections to the private prison coming in.
Perhaps we need a group that is for the prison coming into town so we can have some fair and unbiased reporting and facts gathered. Anyone want to join that committee?
Hello DCOX.
Your information above is incorrect.
Actually, over 350 post cards from registered voters have already been returned. Just ask Councilwoman Uhl. She had the opportunity to read over a hundred comments, from the post cards returned from voters in her District. And, thus far, we have mailed post cards to less than 1/3 of Globe’s registered voters! By the time we are finished, we estimate that we will have over 1,200 signed post cards from registered voters in Globe — exactly the same number that voted for Mayor in the last election. We have just begun!
Additionally, we have gathered over 2,000 petition signatures. And, here’s a startling number — guess how many post cards were mailed back that had a PRO-Prison comment? ONE, yes — precisely ONE. We will be happy to share with you, just as we did with Mr. Charles Ryan, Director of AZDOC and Senators Allen & Pearce.
No doubt you have spoken with 40 people who do not oppose a private prison coming to Globe. So have we. Approx. 20 of those are local officials, EDC Members etc!
However, the important point is that a substantial portion of our community (such as @ 25 merchants on Broad St.) are opposed to a prison project. It is past time for elected leaders to LISTEN to their constituents, and it is time for the EDC to focus on bringing true private enterprise projects that will contribute to the quality of life of our community.
Oh, and finally — please prepare a list of specific concerns, challenges etc. to any of the information we have published or distributed over the past 5 months. We stand by our facts. But, we are also willing to make any correction to the record if it is warranted. Please, show us your specific concerns. Thank you.
I appreciate the comment back. I have talked to over 40 people in town who were not related in any way to the EDC or to local officials, although I’m sure you have talked to many more than I have. I did take the time to read your notebook that you passed out previously and frankly that is what encouraged me to talk to the folks that I have. Albeit, I greatly appreciate the hard work you guys have put into this, I do disagree with the information you passed out to the general public by way of that notebook. I personally felt that it was a scare tactic designed to get the exact response you were hoping for. I also did share that notebook with at least 4 other business owners in town, who did have the same reaction I did. The original notebook did not give any kind of unbiased information to our community. Most of the articles weren’t even about prison systems in Arizona. I have heard a number of rumors in town as well. I had another business owner in town say that they saw children signing your petition at the fairgrounds. I told this person that I found that extremely difficult to believe, since I do believe that you and others like you are truly trying to do what you think is best for our community. I strongly believe that this whole thing needs additional research and have taken it upon myself to do just that. I will be happy to pass along my findings as information comes in. Again thank you for your dedication to your project and I do admire you for the work that has been done, I just don’t believe that all of the correct information is coming out. I will look forward to speaking with you and blogging (first time blogger) with regard to the information I am currently waiting on, in addition to the conversations I plan to have with local law enforcement, as well as the areas in our State that currently have private run prisons.
Jim…Linda was kind enough to pass on the invitation for reviewing the cards, etc. I would definately like to take you up on that; however, I would first like to get the information back that I have already requested from various sources so that we can have a conversation with the info that I am attempting to obtain. Thanks again, and I look forward to an informative evening.
It is startling to think that a child is lurking somewhere in Globe who may have (according to rumors) signed a ‘Stop the Private Prison’ petition at the County Fair! We must find that blessed child and bestow honors!
During the past 5 months, a handful of pro-private prison folks have criticized the now famous ‘Notebook’. Yet, not one critic has stepped forward to provide objective research or reporting that rebuts any of the information we assembled. Good luck.
The purpose of the Notebook was to assemble factual information and informed opinion that exposed the for-profit prison industry for what it truly is. The truth about this industry, that has emerged over the past several decades, reaches far beyond Arizona.
Additional research is always a good thing — just google: “for profit prisons” — follow hundreds of links from an endless variety of sources — spend a hundred hours or so (as I have done) engaged in research —- NOT industry propaganda or private prison talking points.
Frankly — I am not too interested in ‘re-litigating’ the entire debate that has been happening here in Globe during the past 5-6 months. No offense, but you are a bit late to this party.
By the way, I understated the total number of ‘post card petitions’ from registered voters —- the number is actually 500, and growing daily. We invite you to stop by for just a brief visit to see these post cards and read the hundreds of citizen comments — powerful stuff! No reason to wait! Come on over, and bring a City Council Member!
Finally, again I emphasize the important point — a substantial portion of our community is opposed to a prison project — for all kinds of reasons. Given this reality, it is time to redirect energy toward attracting positive, true free-enterprise projects.
Isn’t soliciting signatures from minors unlawful? At the very least, most states mandate that only registered voters can sign petitions that effect government issues. Also, would it be possible to have a list of citations for the information in your notebook? Since you stand by your facts I’d be curious to know of their origins.
AZGIRL,
Your information is quite incomplete. You have jumped to conclusions, and are enabling the spreading of rumors.
The writer above, DCox, acknowledges ‘hearing rumors’ —- then proceeds to spread them! Rumors they are!
The ‘petitions’ at the County Fair are NOT ‘legal’ documents, in the same since as a ‘referendum’ or ‘recall’ petition that must carefully conform to a legal statute. The ‘petitions’ local residents signed at the County Fair and other places around town, were INFORMAL documents that expressed a specific sentiment about a proposed prison project. The PURPOSE of the petitions is to demonstrate the extent of citizen opposition. To my knowledge, no ‘child’ signed a petition at the County Fair! However, we did distribute hundreds of ‘NO PRISON’ stickers to anyone, young or old, who wanted one! To spread such rumors is, well……. silly to say the least.
Regarding information in the Notebook…… solid as a rock! Call me and I will present you with a ‘Notebook’ — and will be happy to discuss every single source (most of which are contained in the Notebook) —- and would love to show you all of the original petition signatures —- and most importantly, the ORIGINAL ‘post cards’ from registered voters that contain hundreds of powerful comments! Just call Jim at the Pickle Barrel Trading Post 425-9282.
Have you googled: “for profit prisons” yet? Have you engaged in just a few hours of independent research? If you do, I am confident your questions about our ‘Notebook’ will be answered —- and then, perhaps you will want to join the @ 2,500 (and growing) local residents who have signed a petition opposing a private prison for Globe-MIami.
Jim:
What rumors? I asked a couple of questions to the person who seems to have the most information on the situation. I have seen the notebook and am not curious about that level of information. I’d like to see the links and citations to the original material you’ve used so I can make an informed decision as a voter. I’m concerned that asking to see your work means I’ve jumped to conclusions and warrants your defensive posture.
In these posts, I do not see anything but people asking questions – and who are met tersely that the time for such discussion has passed or that they are spreading untrue rumors. How does asking questions do anything other than clarify the situation? To echo the concerns being voiced, the mere possibility that children might have been included is something that should be considered socially coercive and warrants concern in my mind, not celebration. As a resident, I don’t believe this conversation is over. That does not mean that I support the proposal, but that with the exception of an unfortunately short article regarding the very real, significant and practical issues facing the area in regards to local water availability and sewage infrastructure, it remains that many of the arguments that I have seen made are more in the nature of “A Raisin in the Sun” protests or presumptions of the worst possible scenario. This, instead of maintaining a balanced and reasonable presentation of the entire situation. It seems that instead of building community awareness and cohesion, there appears to be more caustic comments coming from the no-prison camp aimed towards our local government, leaders and individuals within our community than I have seen from them and others among us who acknowledge the possibility of a prison happening – even if it is not the desired outcome. As I stated earlier, I am not in support of the prison project, but as long as there are still questions and possibilities remain there is still discussion to be had on the matter.
Having seen the original notebook, I looked for citations for the origins of the mass of photocopied pages that filled the binder and was unable to find many if any at all. I was also unable to find any indication of the copyright holder’s permission to reprint such documents. Further, the poster asked for their answer here, and I don’t think it is out of line to ask for you to do so, especially in this light. And while the Internet is a wonderful potential resource, it is also full of editorial and should not be treated as fact. So I will second the earlier request, and ask that you list your sources here for the material included so that myself and others, as individuals, can read the material in its’ original and complete context instead of in a condensed and partially annotated format. And I would prefer to do that in the comfort of my own home where I can compare studies at my leisure, not a commercial setting as you suggest by visiting this store, having one side present their arguments to me in the absence of any counterpoint. Is that unreasonable to request? And before you ask yet again, I’ve done a fair amount of reading (including perusing your notebook), reviewed the potential issues that can easily occur in private prisons (as well as state-run facilities), and I don’t think that a prison is the right type of ‘industry’ for this area to pursue. But that has nothing to do with the people associated, the families and employees that would come with the project as has been suggested elsewhere, but the damage that such a project would do to the ability of Globe to sustain itself well into the future.
If asking questions is equal to spreading rumors, then we are already in worse shape than I feared. There is room for questions and analysis while the subject continues to be an active one, and those voices should be encouraged, not stifled; it is disheartening to see a relatively negative response to someone who asked valid questions. First, regarding the nature of your “petitions” and the lack of disclosure or process. It is in quotations, since these documents would be invalid in the legal sense, given there is no oversight regarding them. One could as easily get as many signatures at a college with a title sheet for lower tuition; there is no way to know how many of your individuals were relevant to the discussion as registered voters in Globe. Second, about the substance and origins of the materials being presented on your behalf as those have not been provided readily in print or online. It further concerns me that there is no disclosure of this fact in the statements made earlier regarding the situation at hand.
One last point I would make is in regards those members of the Arizona State Senate featured in the original article. Senator Sylvia Allen seemingly believes that the Earth is 6000 years old (https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/06/arizona-is-6000-years-old/), while there is historical evidence of no less than three thriving civilizations on three different continents developing, horses were being domesticated, and the plough was already in use at that time. Senator Russell Pearce was discharged from his position as the Director of the Arizona MVD due to tampering with state records and has been associated with various white supremacists and hate groups over just the past five years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Pearce). While I would not base any judgment upon these select pieces of information only, I think it is equally important that any readers be aware of any questionable backgrounds of those whose help is being sought at the state level.
Please respond with your arguments, as I am interested in seeing how those selections are presented in their original context, and the knowledge base from which the authors of those articles drew upon.
Dear Observer: As editor and Globe resident, I am responsible for the information listed on this site. Although I am wholly opposed to the Private Prison proposed for Globe having done my own research, we have posted both sides of the issue in many cases, including the 4-week debate showcasing both sides, with Bob Zache representing the EDC’s response in supporting a prison. As information surfaces regarding the track record of Arizona’s Private Prison system, we have listed them here. It seems they would be relevant to residents considering whether to allow one to build here.
There has been alot of information disseminated in 6 months. What is it, exactly that you feel needs clarification? Happy to provide resources or citations, although I think most posts have referenced these.
Your point about sources is important. A majority of information cited by those who support this project have come from the Prison company themselves. That hardly seems like independent research. Much of our information comes from watch dog groups and independent reporting from Channel 5 KPHO, or the Rachael Maddow show, or news reports from other states who have reported issues with these kinds of facilities.
Regarding the “children” issue, I’ve heard this comment twice now, and all I can think is that it stems from a photo I posted about the Citizen’s Opposed booth at the Gila County Fair. Considering hundreds of local residents stopped by the booth, chatted, signed their name to the petition and grabbed stickers…it’s not so surprising that stickers showed up on young and old, and everyone in between!
No matter what you or I think about Russell Pearce and Sylvia Allen, they are our State Leaders, and as such, influential in either siting a Prison in Globe – or directing it elsewhere. Pearce is a proponent of private prisons and if you believe the NPR report, he helped to draft Arizona’s legislation for SB70. Fact is, he will be influential on this issue of Private Prisons in the State. And part of the democratic process is you work through channels. Going to the legislators and having our opposition heard at that level was good ole American Democracy at work.
And this bit of news just in on Russell Pearce by the Phoenix New Times. Good reporting, as always.
https://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2010/12/russell_pearce_shakes_down_sco.php
I’ve been waiting on responding here, as I have been waiting for a response from Mr. Moss and trying to provide him with a reasonable amount of time in which to do so. Indeed, Ms. Gross, as publisher and editor you are responsible for the information published on your site; here I have only asked Mr. Moss to provide his sources for the publication he supplied, as well as the relevant permission to reproduce those works. That is all, as I was unable to obtain a list of citations for that information when I reviewed the “Notebook” myself. As I’ve said, I do not support the prison project in any way so I am not sure where your comments regarding information supporting the project were aimed. For information regarding that argument, I would contact the relevant companies and those individuals who are supportive of such a project, just as in these efforts to understand aspects of the no-prison argument I am reaching out for information from those who are its’ leading proponents’. I would be hesitant to say that your sources are not equally vested in their own position. I still have questions regarding the purpose of the petition, as without safeguards in place there is no way to ascertain that any of those signatures were from individuals with legitimate interests or more representative of the political nature of those who were present when the opportunity to sign presented itself. It is one thing to claim that you have the signatures of 2,500 registered voters in Globe or Gila County and another entirely to say that you’ve collected 2,500 signatures in opposition to the prison project, which is what would be more accurate based on what I have seen here and heard in regards to the rather open manner that signatures were accepted. If there is evidence to the contrary, then I welcome the opportunity to review it – but I don’t believe that I should be coerced in order to have access to that information, or the resources used in producing the argument made against a for-profit prison. One last observation: while Mr. Lowery and Mr. Moss appear in large font on the right side your website, Mr. Zache’s name is absent; so is any reference to the EDC or SGCEDC, leaving the combined absence of reference material contained herein remarkably conspicuous. When I searched for him, I found his articles taken out of context and addressed in a selective manner; I do not consider this to be posting both sides of the issue in a fair manner, but positing an editorial response to his articles that were written in another paper. If Mr. Zache had been an active participant in the discussion, it would be a different story, but at no time does his name appear other than in small citations within the article itself. As a result, it does not seem that a balanced discussion has taken place but that a platform established to share a specific opinion on the situation. Even in agreement with not having the prison here in principle, I still have issue in that the manner in which the conversation has happened seems more like a loaded gun instead of handled in an even fashion, and as a result those who might have had an objection or observation are instead discouraged from even making the attempt for fear of reprisal.
Regarding Pearce and Allen, it may be a matter that between us, I do not agree that the ends justify the means, especially in this case. More to point, to hitch one’s wagon to the same horses that enacted some of the most questionable legislation in Arizona’s history (and that’s saying something) in SB70 is not something I’m comfortable with. That is another discussion, though, as we get into the roles of the state versus the role of the federal government. The article you cited is a prime example of political malfeasance, regardless of whether it has been considered acceptable procedure or behavior in the past. If the argument is sound, as the water and sewage argument appeared to have been with concrete figures, projections based on a variety of different usage models, and an unbiased viewpoint, then I have no problem with it. While I’ve seen some information regarding the effects of property values and crime rates (in aggregate) and would welcome more in depth and complete information, I have not been impressed by comments made by no-prison proponents that suggest that people associated with for-profit prisons are inherently inferior instead of sticking to the relevant data. Something that has gone unsaid here is that this issue is being given a NIMBY approach; rather than address the laws and individuals responsible for creating the need for another prison, the problem is simply being pushed from Globe to another community. That doesn’t sound like responsible behavior to me, and it concerns me that it is acceptable with some people to pass this off to another location.
To simply things, why not provide a bibliography as well as a list of other sources utilized? That way, a private individual such as myself is able to make an well-reasoned decision for ourselves. While we are not in disagreement on the issue, I am concerned in how it was handled and where some of the information came from as it appeared more intent on filling the reader with fear than with information.
Step from behind the curtain into the sunlight and I will be happy to respond in great detail.
No identity = No accountability. I for one, am not interested in that sort of dialogue.
Your comments (‘An Observer’) are ‘way off base’ from start to finish.
In the meantime, just google: “for profit prisons” or “prison industrial complex” and do your independent research.
Each & every local official & citizen is welcome to evaluate/examine ALL Petition signatures and Post Cards — as Mayor Shipley (to his credit) did last week. We have nothing to hide. Just call 425-9282 to set an appointment.
This is a public forum, Mr. Moss – and as such, whether it is my own name or a pseudonym is not relevant, since it is the content of the discussion that is significant and not the individuals who are making them that are important. From what I’ve read thus far, you do not appear interested in any sort of dialogue as your comments have consistently dismissed the opinions of others without substantiation while also refusing to answer the questions being put to you. What were your sources, and was authorization given by the authors? Given your background in education, I am surprised that you do not recognize the importance of and necessity for a bibliography and getting permission to reproduce material written by others before distributing it. If my comments are off-base then why have you said nothing in response other than to keep repeating to search Google? As I’ve said previously, I have done my own research but I’m always interested in getting as complete a picture as possible before making up my mind on a subject. Is there an issue in asking you to provide your sources? And given that it appears that there has not been oversight in regards to this ‘petition’ that has been circulated, is it appropriately disclaimed on the document itself to make that clear to both those reading it and to those signing it, whether they be private citizens or public officials? While I appreciate the effort made in asking me to come to your place of business, I don’t have any interest in doing so. At the risk of repeating myself, I am asking you to simply substantiate yourself in public by requesting your sources so that I can independently research them myself. If I am off-base, then I invite you to publicly answer and explain why. If you have nothing to hide, why have you continued to refuse and evade such simple and direct requests?
To this point, the best argument made against placing a for-profit prison here would be the same reason to argue not to put another State facility or other commercial undertaking of the same scope: doing so would put such an undue demand on the local infrastructure (water and sewage) that it would ultimately destroy Globe’s ability to continue to grow and evolve over time. If the numbers provided were accurate, and to this point they have been consistent with what I’ve found elsewhere, then there is no reason for the discussion to continue as to keep on that path would ultimately be self-destructive.
Oh please, step into the sunlight! Identify yourself (An Observer) — then, I will be most delighted to address ALL of your ‘observations’. As long as your identity is anonymous, your words really can not be taken seriously. You obviously have something to hide. No transparency = No credibility.
Until then….. google: “Israeli Supreme Court bans for-profit prisons” — to learn what the Supreme Court of Israel, a capitalistic democracy, thinks about for-profit prisons. And, check with the EDC to see the latest social science research (which we provided) out of Washington State University —– “The Impact of Prisons on Employment Growth In Rural U.S. Counties” —- the BIBLIOGRAPHY is ten (10) pages! ! —- All documented and sourced — just like ALL of the other information we have disseminated!
To ‘An Observer’… are you plant, vegetable or mineral?
It’s difficult to take anyone seriously when they can’t even put their name to what they say and how they feel…
it’s a simple part of engaging in an open and honest dialog. I put my name (and my picture) on everything I stand for…
maybe there’s some risk involved, but how else will I stand up and be heard and understood?
Join the club, Kiddo, and come forward!
Wow, all I did was ask for some citations so I could do some further reading. I had no idea I was asking for so much and that it would cause such rancor and push back. I will say this, while I still haven’t gotten the citations I requested regarding the information being handed out so I can make an informed voting decision, I have certainly gotten a clear picture of how Citizens Opposed truly regards the citizenry and their concerns. As I don’t think Jim is ever going to tell us where he got the information he’s used to create this grassroots movement, (other than a vague, “the internet” answer), I won’t be returning to this thread.
One last thing, as to demanding for people to give their names online, this is an identity theft security risk. Continually badgering people to give away identifying information online is called Phishing. And it’s illegal.
Poppycock, AZGIRL! — Whomever you are!
Your argumentative points simply have no basis in fact — whatsoever.
All information we have disseminated has been sourced, referenced, most of which contains bibliographical citations — just like the 2010 social science research referenced above in my last posting. Your accusations are ludicrous.
Regarding anonymity — if both parties to a conversation are anonymous — fine. BUT, for one party to remain behind a veil and hurl false accusations at the other party who is standing out in the open — well, is that really a level playing field? Sure, it is my choice to be transparent — identity known — AND, it is my choice to refuse to interact online with those who act like the Wizard of OZ (as in behind the curtain).
Adios. I’m going “Phishing” — you know, I’m getting ready to identify myself by clicking the ‘SUBMIT’ button.
In reply to Mr. Moss’ and Mr. Lowery’s comments above – Thanks, but no thanks. My personal privacy is important to me, and something that I will continue to protect. That you are interested in being the figurehead(s) behind a movement you believe in is perhaps to your own credit, but it is not of interest to me and certainly doesn’t make it incumbent upon me to do the same. No one made you register under your own name, and nothing requires me to supply that information either. If someone chose, they could easily take one of your images, your name, and post under your guise saying anything they please, anywhere they like – being in that position is not something that interests me. What should matter to you is that I am a long-time Globe resident and a registered voter… not whether I am a potential customer or my position in the community. I will thank you, Mr. Moss, for the single source which you have chosen to provide, but I am thoroughly disappointed that you are either unable or unwilling to publicly provide a complete list of your resources. Despite your continued insistence, the ‘notebook’ that I read did not contain a bibliography so that I could refer to what you excerpted in its’ original context, much less any indication of permission given to reprint. As an individual, I don’t believe you speak for me as a citizen, and the manner in which you treat people is certainly something that I would not support under any means. As a resident, I am embarrassed by the behavior of Mr. Moss in his exchange with others and myself in this thread – people have asked questions of him, not hurled accusations. No answers have been forthcoming. I appreciate the opportunity provided to ask, nonetheless, and will continue to discuss the matter with others and make up my own mind.
Where is the responsive leadership? The careful due diligence?
Local elected officials and the EDC President persist in pushing their private prison agenda. From the very beginning of the private prison debate, this handful of City and County Officials have refused to carefully consider the evidence, and have refused to acknowledge the widespread citizen opposition.
Arrogance and willful ignorance are not attributes of good leadership. They must be held accountable.
Great article- and here’s the update: we’ve been collecting signatures right and left, and
the petition drive is going extremely well. We can always use some help, though-
readers can sign petitions at the Pickle Barrel or United Jewelry, and if you’re
civic minded and want to make a difference, please volunteer to carry a petition
and get some signatures! Call Darin at 200-8553 and we’ll set you up in a heartbeat.
Thanks one and all- now let’s get this issue settled once and for all!
poor citizens of Globe. i was visiting your fair city as i love the small town atmosphere, historic buildings and charming people i run into; not to mention the food. everywhere i went i heard the good people speaking of “the prison”. prison says i ? why would the city want to put in ANOTHER PRISON ? (there is a facility run by Arizona Department of Corrections) right down the road. it used to house low custody inmates, sex offenders and hardened criminals (not all the same time).
if you read about the “Private Prison” Corporations, you will find , they place them mostly in middle and rural America. (ya know , kinda like out of the way where the citizens are too ignorant to refuse it). The BIG corporations say there facility is professionally run with strict guidelines and professional staff. HINT: there are a lot of private prison employees who have CRIMINAL RECORDS outside the county they are employed in. Do you want that sexual deviant, dog killer, drug user driving through your town and shopping at the same stores your children shop ?
look at the facility in FLORENCE AZ. when 3 inmates escaped. there have been more escapes , but the ones who searched for the escapees were County, State and City Police. all at a cost to the citizens. a Bill for services was later forwarded to CCA.
the corporation will say that “THOUSANDS” of jobs will be introduced into the area. HINT: when construction starts , the awarded architects will be from out of state, the construction company will be from out of state with a few “laborors” from local companies added. The Professional Staff will be lateral transfers from out of state and the few that get hired from the local area’s (Mesa,Casa Grande) will not be pleased with the lack of housing and travel time getting to work which makes for a disgruntled driver speeding through the school zones.
Private Prisons are a warehouse and are big money makers for their own profit, not for the profits of Globe citizens. HINT; sure there will be monetary donations to the little leauge and girl scout troops but it’s all for show and tax deductable to boot.
HINT : all the inmates that will be housed there will be from out of state (Hardened killers from Hawaii, gang members from California) or maybe “immigrants” awaiting transfer back to their homeland.
I applaud the citizens who want to make the right choice for the city they live in by refusing to accept the facility and at the very least have the voters decide by placing it on the ballot.
HINT : ask the citizens of Eloy, Florence if there have been any improvements to their lifestyle or cities infrastructure. I guarantee you they will SAY NO.
I admire what Mr. Moss and the people against this proposal have accomplished. I happen to be for the prison but I feel a vote on the issue is what is best for Globe.
Congratulations on all you have achieved thus far.
well said Linda
YEEEEE-HA !!!
“Sabotage” ?? “Playing Games” ??
We are fortunate here in Globe to have Mayor Shipley and our town council as it stands. They have done great things for our community and many of us applaud their efforts. It will be a real pleasure to have the opportunity to vote for them again in a few months time.
Thank you Globe town council.
One of many un-named supporters.
And by the way, let me address the anonymous question. I advertise with GMT. I shop at Mr. Moss’ store and many others including Simply Saras and Mr. Palmers bakery. I would like to keep it that way.
The stupidest move this town did was not allow that private prison this is why this town will die because there is no money
I’m with what you say Tom. We are dying a slow death.
I agree wth you Tom. Prison town…hahaha we have a prison. And a jail. I don’t feeel like a “prison Town” To all the ones who tried to help bring in this opportunity I say thank you.
I certainly hope the Copper Spike Excursion will be allowed to continue under the new railway owners. Opportunities to experience train travel are becoming more and more limited outside of the major East Coast markets–so having it available as part of a historic tour make the trip even more special.
Posted with permission for Carl Southard who posted this comment on FB.
The Copper Spike was the greatest thing that I have ever been a part of, I was introduced to Kip Culver by my mother several months after coming out of a month long coma, I was still having balance problems, but helping to restore the little depot became a rehabilitation for me, both body and mind, and most importantly working with Kip Culver showed me what it meant to belong to a community, to be part of something that I can look back at with pride for the rest of my life.
When the Copper Spike was running at first from the little depot, I would man the depot selling tickets and such, in between runs I would go next door to the laundry mat and try to see it as a train depot, as it was described to me by some of the local folk who had seen it for themselves back in its day. When Kip Culver got the Historic Globe Main Street Program in and the laundry out is when the work got going on the train depot itself. Since it was all volunteers doing the work, getting the people all free to work on it at the same time was not a easy task, Kip worked so hard on all of it.
Alot of the restoration when on Saturday’s and Sunday’s, as the train was running I was manning the little depot, making me miss alot of it, I still got to get my hands dirty there, but watching it from next door almost made me want to cry!
Posted with permission for Carl Southard who posted this comment on FB.
You can tell a lot about a town, they say, by looking at its architecture. No doubt, the old County Court house is Globe’s crowning jewel, as the heart of Gila County’s seat of government. But when you think about it, historically speaking, if the County Seat is Globe’s heart, then that train depot is the dorsal aorta, for surely our cultural life flowed freely through it for some time. What other town would think nothing of having an active railroad track run down the center of the street in front of their City Hall?
The Copper Spike reminds us to look back and reflect on our grand past of affluence and boastful hope in the American Westward movement, “Go West, young man. Go West!” We can use that hope in these troubled times.
I have many memories in that old building. I worked in the old train depot during the days that Greyhound Lines leased it. I was just a kid of 14 -16, but I was old enough to work alone planning itineraries, selling tickets, meeting the arrivals and departing buses, handling the freight and baggage, and sending Western Union telegrams and money orders. No, it wasn’t in the “glory days,” of the train, but the spirit was still there.
Kip Culver understands feels this spirit too, and has worked hard to keep that artery of life open, not only by restoring the depot back to its former grandeur, but also in promoting the Copper Spike Excursion. True, it increases the local economic flow through tourism, but Ah! There’s nothing like a consistent train’s whistle to resuscitate Globe’s “can-do” spirit! Don’t you agree?
JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE “two sons of the Salas family are responsible for La Santa Cruz de la Globe to be recognized as a National Register of Historic Places.” ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO HAD PLAYED A ROLL IN THIS. THERE ARE THE NAVARRO BOYS WHO ARE THE ONE’S WHO CARE FOR THE CROSS EVERY DAY OF EVERY YEAR. ALSO ALL THE FAMILY’S OF THE THE 11 FRIEDS OF Rosalio Salas.
WITH ALL THE BLESSING FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE, IS WHAT MADE THIS HAPPEN!!!!
Hi Dawn. THANKS for adding to our outline of La Santa Cruz de la Globe and including others who need to be recognized. It IS a testament to the many who came together to do this. Thanks again, L
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Concerning the article above on vintage mannequins, I would appreciate very much a little info. on these. I have a vintage boy sitting mannequin that I bought for $250.00 in the 1990’s. Now I would like to sell him and I don’t know where to start. Do you have any ideas? I live in the East Bay near San Francisco, CA. I would appreciate any information you could give me. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Lorraine
I love hiking round mountain. We like to pack lunch and take our family (5 kid total) and hike and have our lunch at the picnic tables near the top. If you haven’t been to the top, it should definitely be on your bucket list, beautiful view.
What a beautiful tribute to Velma. It is so very difficult to say goodbye to a pet. Velma will always be in your heart and the love you had for one another is strong & pure. As the days and weeks pass, her spirit will continue to surround you with love.
Darin,
I am so sorry to hear about Velma. What a great way to honor her life. I needed a kleenex.
Our dogs are an extension of us and our feelings. Funny how my dog likes someone I don’t and
how he doesn’t like some one I do. Go figure. They say trust your dog. I am still trying to figure that one out.
Love you and talk soon.
Our thoughts are with you, Darin. Velma was lucky to have you.
My deepest sympathy to Mr. Lertique’s family and friends. My daughter and I were at the library 2 weeks ago “renting books” as she calls it and she asked him if we could live on mars, He said, so serious, We do live on mars!! What a wonderful sense of humor he had. Just yesterday we took flowers to my Mother at the cemetery and she asked her usual 4 year old questions. One being, “On your way to heaven Mommy can you stop by the planets and stars”? I told her “I didn’t see why not”! We will soon be returning our books and I know she will ask where the Library man is? I will tell her, “He had to go to heaven”. I smile knowing she will say with bright eyes, “I bet he stops at Mars!” Mr. Lertique made a Wonderful impression on me and my daughter, and I am forever grateful for that!! He will be greatly missed!!
What a terrific couple! We met them– and some of their friends and family– at the Pickle Barrel.
Great photo of a truly sweet pair. Congratulations and many happy years together!
Thanks so much for the sweet note, Darin! We love coming to visit the Pickle Barrel anytime we’re in town, so hopefully we’ll see you again soon!
Angela
The railroad was the ‘Gila Valley, Globe and Northern’. Too bad the link to Denver was never completed.
I’ve never been more conscious of my nationality than when I lived abroad or traveled to other countries. It’s easy to forget about until you suddenly find yourself being processed through an immigration office or introduced to someone as an American rather than someone from Phoenix or Arizona. And in many countries, “being American” doesn’t make you popular. Take your pick, from our foreign policy to our dark history, not everyone is fond of us “Americans”.
Nonetheless, it was during these times that I developed my deepest sense of what “being American” means to me. There is no guarantee I would have the same appreciation for diversity, my eclectic taste, my love of nature, or be as independent or as adventurous as I am had I not lived my unique experience here as a U.S. citizen.
I realize my experience is just one out of a sea of experiences I could have had. I have a “Japanese” and a “white” family. My parents divorced when I was eight, and I was raised by my father. Ours was a non-religious household. I grew up in Sacramento, named the most diverse city in the country in 2002 by TIME magazine. I lived near beautiful landscapes I was free to roam with a bike or a car. I had access to food, electricity, clean water, a roof over my head, an education, and all the resources an urban upbringing could afford — and what so many of us take for granted — at my fingertips.
Yet in my travels, I’ve met elderly persons who have never stepped foot outside their hometown, and women who have spent the majority of their lives covered head to toe. I’ve met people who have lived through civil wars, and dissidents who fear for their safety.
Had I had been born in any other country, their experience could have just as easily been my own.
To be an American means to be yourself – true to your past, your present and your potential. It means to respect one another for being him/herself. If amenable to others, it means to be able to constructively and appropriately communicate about differences in a way that encourages future dialogue. If not amenable to others, it means to be able to accept that differences exist and to not try to change others to our way of thinking or mode of living.
To be an American means to be loyal, strong, brave, responsible, and above all – and without exception – to be a person of deep and unquestionable integrity. Certainly these are all elements of what it means to be human; because our nation’s people are composed of people from all walks of life, from every land of the earth, from every belief system.
To be an American means to be blessed with the opportunities to learn, to freely speak and assemble, to worship (or not) in the faith of one’s choosing, to find fulfillment in a self-chosen profession, vocation or field of study. It is to be free to make mistakes and accept their consequences; it is to be empowered with responsibility to learn from the past, live in the present, and prepare for the future.
Thank you for contributing, Maryn. How valuable it is to be able to communicate our differences and respect them.
More than twenty years ago, two weeks before my wedding, I was forced to cancel the ceremony because my fiancé was shipped overseas. On the day I would have been married I struggled with the idea that I had to give up my husband for the sake of another man’s freedom. It was on that day that I began to recognize the sacrifice our forefathers made to present us with the freedom and independence we have today. Eventually my fiancé did come home and yes, we did finally marry….and that country he fought for does have a certain level of freedom and liberty than it did before.]
Being an American means that we honor those who sacrificed with life and limb to gain the freedom and independence that we enjoy so much today. Each of us enjoys the freedom to live our lives according to our own choices. Many would suggest that our nation has lost their way as they have sought to challenge our rights to certain freedoms or to remove our right to privacy. I can’t help but to look at the creativity and ingenuity that comes out of this nation as we engage in the pursuit of happiness. Our freedom to worship God in whatever way that we choose elicits not only a search for truth, but also a sense of contentment within those who believe they have attained it. The establishment of a democracy gains every American a voice toward the progression of this great nation. It is the free exercise of that voice that presents America with the independence and liberty to go where their choices have taken them. This has given America a natural flow of creativity and talent like no other nation. The variety of music and artistic abilities demonstrated within our nation leaves me feeling excited and proud to be an American.
Thank you for sharing your story, Jodie. I’m glad to hear it ended on a happy note. I agree that our creativity and ingenuity in this country is astounding.
An American is a Muslim, an Atheist, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Jain, etc. An American is correct, incorrect, gay, straight, left, right, black, brown, red, yellow, white, generous, greedy, happy, depressed, angry, loving, sick, healthy, addicted, and recovering. I thank God, am an American.
“What it means to be an American is less about who you are than what you are about… how you live your life, how you contribute to this country, how you pledge allegiance to a flag hoping and praying it will make room for you. What it means to be an American is in the hearts of the people who, in their struggles and heartaches, in their joys and triumphs, fight for America and fight to be American every day.” (Jose Antonio Vargas)
James, I agree it is about how you contribute to this country and that covers so many walks of life.
It wasn’t until I lived in a houseful of international students in the 70’s and 80’s that I even began to identify as American. My extended family became students from all over the world who came to Kansas State University to study agriculture..and found their way to my mothers’ boarding house. We had a big, rambling 17 bedroom house filled with students from Nigeria, Germany, Korea, Iran, Nicaragua, China, Ethiopia, and India. It was living with students from other countries that I began to learn just how many freedoms I took for granted having had the sheer luck to be born an American. Freedoms including free speech to criticize the government without being jailed or banned for life or have my life threatened and access to education which was given to me without having to ‘earn a spot at the table’. And a belief embedded in ‘Being American’ that whatever circumstances you are born in to you can still carve out your own future and make your own success in this world. That’s always been our strong suit. I hope we never loose it.
I’ve worked with people from other counties that have made me appreciate being an American more. We are given unlimted opportunities to make our lives successful. People risk their lives daily to try to get those opportunities.
How do I go about ordering a poster. I wont be able to attend the show as I have a car show in pinetop the same weekend and have already committed to that?
Hi Kevin: I’ll set it up on the Eventbrite Site so you can order a poster, without purchasing a ticket. Check it out late Monday and I’ll have that done. Sorry you can’t make the event! ~L
Our dad, Ramon Rubalcaba, Sr. was one of the contractors that built the structures at the new drive-in. Our dad and Mr. Frank Hollis were quite the pair. I even remember when Bobby was born. Frank and my dad were friends throughout my childhood, growing up in Globe. Our dad did many repair and construction jobs that the two of them collaborated on. As a kid, I worked for Mr. Hollis on many of those repair jobs, I spent many weekends at the Alden and Globe theaters. Mr. Hollis would pay me with movie passes…that was awesome..growing up, I never paid to go to the movies, and even through high school. I always took friends and Frank would tell us…”buy lots of concessions,” which we did! One weekend I came home from college, and helped mix cement, move some brick for the then new drive-in. I believe my brother Abie also helped quite a bit, he was still in high school at the time. I hope I can get a ticket so I can be part of the celebration (and attend driving our 1967 Chevy Camaro..what a blast from the past…!). I will be sorry to see the end of the drive-in era for Globe.
Ramon! That is such great information! Do you have any family photos from those early years that you’d care to let us share with readers! Would love to have you attend in your ’67 Chevy Camaro. It’s going to a Big ’60s night of fun! ~L
I’ll check with my bother Abie and my sister Mary, when my parents passed away, we sold the house and we all live elsewhere in Arizona..but close…I remember someone having pictures of the new drive-in as it was being built…no cellphones back then…ha…ha..I do have many fond memories of the Hollis family
Appreciate you looking for pics. It would be awesome to beable to share those.
It is sad that the Drive-In is closing, and wonderful that you all are celebrating in such a 50’s/60’s manner! I am sorry that I will be thousands of miles away and won’t be able to attend. I’ll just have to pretend that I am in the trunk of one of your cars, sneaking in without paying. But as much as I think that “American Graffiti” is a great paean to the drive-in movie, wouldn’t it be even more appropriate to show Peter Bogdanovich’s “The Last Picture Show”? From the first time I saw it in 1971, I thought, “THERE is a film that reflects the town I grew up in!” Jacy: “Not here. I’m too old for screwin’ in cars. …. We’ll do it when it’s safe. We’ve got all summer.”
Hey Bob, we actually thought about doing “The Last Picture Show”, as well as “Midnight Run” which was filmed mostly in and around Globe. We couldn’t get ahold of those films! And in the end it was decided that American Graffiti, which is celebrating it’s 40th Anniversary THIS year would be a fun theme to build an event around and give all of us baby boomers a chance to re-live the ’60s! Have you checked out our Pinterest page “where were you in ’62?” I had forgotten some of the fun memories from then. Remember Rowan and Martins’ Laugh In? https://pinterest.com/globemiamitimes/where-were-you-in-62/.
I know you said you didn’t do facebook, but take a look at the link. It will bring back memories.
I wasn’t even born in 1962. 🙂
Ahh , but it is still a great decade to celebrate! So if you had to choose, what WOULD your favorite decade be to celebrate?
a gleam in my daddys eye.
Made me laugh out loud. As usual, thank you for a good, entertaining read, Darin.
Loved it! Very funny, but the message isn’t lost on anyone. Thanks!
I have known Gertie for years…My husband & her husband Louie were good friends.. We have all camped & fished together and eaten and watched home Movies….even raising our children together. WE kept in contact unjtil 4 years ago when my husband passed usually stopping in to visit once a year.
She is a wonderful and gifted Craftswoman & I have seen much of her work over the years…she presented me both of her dolls (like the ones shown above) as personal gifts. She has been a wonderful friend over the years and I feel blessed to have been considered her friend.
Jane will be sorely missed. She was a warm, vibrant woman who brought so much to so many.
Globe-Miami has lost a true champion.
What a super nice, wonderful person she was. I know that she will be surely missed! Thank you, Jane, for all you have done for our community. Thank you for helping my Girl Scout Troop #1961 earn their Bronze Award. Thank you for helping Cub Scout Pack 777 by letting us have a flag ceremony at the Senior Center. Thank you for all your sweet smiles.
This woman I have never met but know so well in the last couple of days left our world much too soon. It is overwhelmingly obvious that she gave so much strength and hope to those in need. Her passing has truly left a scar on our community. Jane, I hope that you not only can see us from the place that you are in now, but that you will also continue to enrich our lives from a better place.
Our hearts are aching for Jane’s loved ones and for this community which has lost one of its “angels”. Jane was such a special and unique, caring person. She was a very accomplished woman, intelligent and knowledgeable about art and history, but it was her heart that shone with kindness and compassion that we mourn. What a loss for us all!
Jane will be remembered for her tireless work on behalf of the senior citizens of Globe and Southern Gila County.
Oremus: Let us be eternally grateful fto our Lord for the gift of Jane’s live of friendship and her Christ-like service. I am the resurrection and the life, saith the Lord: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Amen. Requiescat in pace, Jane Johnson Eck.
You will be greatly missed, Jane. I will never forget our small talk…I always looked forward to seeing your face 🙂 You were a sweet and caring woman that I will always think of!
Jane was such a giving soul. She will be very missed. She gave so much of herself to her family and this community. She touched so many lives. Our community will never quite be the same from the loss in this horrific tragedy. I am grateful to God that our lives were granted the grace of knowing such an amazing, lively woman. The fine people at the Adult Center were so lucky to be graced with the many talented gifts she was able to bring to them and all the wonderful blessings through Christ he allowed Jane to serve our community with. We were so blessed to have had her in each and every one of our lives. I ask God now to be with her family in their struggles with the grieving of her passing. As there are just no words. I ask God to ease their heavy hearts. She will be always remembered and never forgotten. I am so sorry to the entire Eck Family for your great loss. My prayers are with you.
Oh my Goodness.. My Dear Precious Precious Best Lifetime Friend Jane..
We have been BEST FRIENDS.. Sisters Forever.. I can’t imagine my Life without you in it..
Our Treasured Memories Together are Priceless.. No one Shared in FUN and LAUGHTER as the two of us..
My Heart is Sad and a hole will Forever be as no one else can replace yu.. Tears.. Tears.. Heart to Heart..
It didn’t matter if we got busy with Life and hadn’t made contact for a time.. time never lapsed in our Friendship..
Words were not needed to show our LUV.. one for another.. we knew what the other thought and felt at any given moment..
The LORD was the center of your Life.. Classy Lady.. Serving God’s Children is your Legacy..
“When Ye Have Done it Unto the Least of These My Brethren.. Ye Have Done it Unto Me..”
Luv ya,
Best Friend & Sis Forever
Oh My Goodness.. My Dear Precious Precious Best Lifetime Friend Jane..
We have been BEST FRIENDS.. Sisters Forever.. I can’t imagine my Life without you in it..
Our Treasured Memories Together are Priceless.. No one Shared in FUN and LAUGHTER as the two of us..
My Heart is Sad and a hole will Forever be as no one else can replace you.. Tears.. Tears.. Heart to Heart..
It didn’t matter if we got busy with Life and hadn’t made contact for a time.. time never lapsed in our Friendship..
Words were not needed to show our LUV.. one for another.. we knew what the other thought and felt at any given moment..
The LORD was the center of your Life.. Classy Lady.. Serving God’s Children is your Legacy..
“When Ye Have Done it Unto the Least of These My Brethren.. Ye Have Done it Unto Me..”
Julee you were the Sparkle in her Eyes…
Luv ya,
Cyndi
Best Friend & Sis Forever
My heart is breaking for my best friend and her family. A beautiful soul was lost because of an evil one.
We’ve known Jane and Bob since they started building their beautiful new house up the road from us. We used to meet once a month with our other neighbors, have dinner and discuss what was going on in our lives. I will miss those times together. Nothing is fair about how things seem to go sometimes and Bob will need a lot of support from all of us..
Beautiful caring Lady to be missed by everyone who knew her, a giver not a taker. Always smiling and willing to help in anyway.
Jane was a wonderful woman – energetic and enthusiastic about helping others. When I began working as a volunteer coordinator for RSVP, Jane had just left her management position at the Red Mountain Multi-Generational Center in Mesa and had moved to Globe to become head of the senior center there. I still remember spending a day at Central Arizona College in Coolidge in a booth next to hers on campus – laughing and talking together. I was so blessed to have known her.
In ’62 I was split in two, my mother still seeking the other.
I was probably stardust, but if I happened to be born then, I would probably be Joni Mitchell’s younger sidekick.
Aunt Janie, I have so many great memories of you when I was little. I remember you always had a smile for me, even when you may have had to reach down deep inside to find it. I always would get so excited to come to your house in Mesa, and just watch you be you. I have always thought you were THE most naturally beautiful woman I had ever known and you always looked so comfortable in your own skin. You taught me a little something about that and for that I am forever grateful. You gave me a book to read 20 years ago or so, called Balcony People, and it has been read and reread and highlighted and loaned to my good friend who still references it to this day. I am reading it again now as it makes me feel close to you, I am not a “Balcony Person” yet, but it has taught me to strive to be better in all things and also that my actions are my only true possessions, they are the only ground I stand on. That memory, along with still (after 41years) sleeping on my Snow White and the 7 Dwarves pillow case you made for me for Christmas when I was 5 always remind me of the impact you probably never knew you had on me. I remember I thought I lost that pillow case a few years ago and I was devastated, but thankfully I still have it! I always look at it like a piece of you that I get to have forever. Thank you for being a part of my life and I can promise you that this world will never be the same without you, but you left it a much better place than you found it.
To Bob and Julee and all of Aunt Janies family, words do not express the sorrow and sadness I feel for you at such a sudden and tragic loss. I know that there is little one can say that will help, but when my Daddy died a good friend gave me a book that had the line “Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened.” -Dr. Suess
Our family is still in shock. She was an amazing woman and made such a difference in many people’s lives. She will be missed by many. She is now an angel in Heaven just like she was here on earth! We love you. Jane.
I did not know her very well, but what I did know of her was she was a kind and gentle person, with a good heart! Your passing is a sad one for the moment, but knowing your now with our God and Creator is a comforting thought! Rest in Peace young lady!
I remember you well from school,Westwood High in Mesa.You were always kind and had such a sweet smile for everyone.I can still remember seeing your beautiful face and lovely long hair,you glowed.Even though I didn’t know you really well,I felt you were my friend.It is sad that you have left us,my heart aches for your family and friends……..but, I know you are in heaven with our Heavenly Father.You were a special lady Jane!! Your classmates love you so much!! RIP dear friend.
I was not born yet but I bet it was a blast.
I was barely born but somehow I “remember” the 60s.
I wasn’t born in 1962 ! But if I could choose any decade to live in I would choose the 1920’s or 1940’s, mostly because of the beautiful clothing ! (:
I loved the ’40s for the fact that people used to go out and dance to the sounds of the Big Bands. But the ’20s had alot of that too. And you couldn’t go out dancing in just anything. It had to have style!
I was barely 2 years old in 1962. Coming from the East Coast, drive in movies were plentiful at the time. It is really a shame that slowly they are closing. Although I suppose if more people went on a regular basis, instead of the high dollar theaters the trend would switch.
I just went to the Arboretum for the bird walk last Saturday morning and it was amazing!! There was such an abundance of beautiful sights to admire and nature experts willing to share their vast knowledge. I will definitely have to return again soon!
Agreed, it’s pretty incredible!
Our thanks to LeeAnn Powers who put in the leg work to look through old newspapers on microfiche and found these items for us to post!
It will be a true shame to see the Apache Drive-In close. After loosing the bowling alley, there leaves very little to do in this town, that spikes the interest of the younger generations. Sure we have the walk-in theater now, but lets face it, it’s just not the same. You would almost be lead to believe that Globe was becoming a retirement community, when our biggest attractions are the mining and antiques. It is just one more reason to move to “the big city”. With less and less to provoke young buyers to come to our town and establish a living, who else is there to continue “the legacy” of what was once a beauty in architecture and grand allure?
Tough question… A great one to bring up to the Chamber of Commerce and City Council.
I wasn’t born yet.
A very nice article ~ Delvan is truly a one-of-a- kind lady.
With the help of old Kodachrome slides that I am in the process of converting to JPG images my memory of those early 60 days is becoming sharper. My dad had his own business as a dental technician so He liked expensive things. We went to a boat show and decided to buy one of the ski boats on display a 12 foot G 3 Ski boat by Glastron it was powered by a 70 hp Merc outboard motor. To balance things out with Mom, Dad bought her a mink that she only wore a few times. That was the best part of 62
The most important clue to the JFK assassination can be found in this Youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMuF1u94cic
Thank you! I look forward to bringing this show to town!
James Garcia
Playwright/The Mighty Vandals
James, I enjoyed the earlier version of the play which I saw at the Hersberger several years ago. Looking forward to the full story on stage with this one! ~Linda
I will always love you jane just the way you were on the very first day we met on MacDonald Street. Many blessings and warm wishes and love you out to Morgan, Janice, Denver and Ann. I love you all and think of you as the family I never had. Love you all forever. L.
Very nice pictures Linda. Me and Scott and my son were there, lots of beautiful jewelry and artwork and of course the food was amazing.
Thanks Dani. Actually all the photos and the coverage were done by Jenn Walker this year. She does do a great job on covering events with her camera. I missed it this year since I was in Tucson last weekend, but it looks like there were some great performances. ~L
I really dig the portrait of Carrie Curley with sitting with her art and the action shot of Dinah Teh performing the bow and arrow dance!
Thanks Kenneth!
hello Selena, My name is Donna. I have been researching online any and all designers and dress makers. it is difficult to find someone who is willing to make an apache dress. MANY RESPOND WITH TOO MUCH MATERIAL. I love your story,dresses and your ability to see that modern skin tight dresses takes away from the culture and meaning of ones tribe. I have asked many who sew and they usually respond with ” why dont you wear a T dress?”, I am Jicarilla Apache and I have been dancing in the powwow circuit for over 20 years. I would feel uncomfortable to switch dresses simply because its the new fashion. my ancestors did not change because of fashion , why should I. I am excited to hear from you, I currently live in Las Vegas and would like to know if you plan on showing your designs here in this area or California. thank you for keeping the culture alive!
Hi Donna,
I passed your message along to Selina. Thanks for reading!
Take care,
Jenn
Hi, my name is Kathy Benavidez and I am of Apache/Mexican heritage. I love to sew and have made several camp dresses for different people. I made my first one for the first ceremony I was to be a vital part of and it was my only dress for twenty nine years. I finally bought material to make myself a new dress and I am looking forward to wearing it. I have made others for women who are beginning to explore their heritage and it has become important to me that they understand how and maybe why the women dressed as they did. I always say I dress this way to honor them, to keep their memory alive-it is a pleasure to dress as they did.
I am interested in either having a camp dress made, or getting instructions on how to make my own. Can anybody out there help me or give me pointers? Thank you!!
hello, i have been trying to find a website or contact info for dale and Claire. I have been searching for an Apache buckskin for 2 years. If you have this information i would greatly appreciate this. Thank you Donna Padilla
I had the pleasure of working with Fred Wesley on several occasions with some real “problem” horses. He turned them around in just a few sessions. Taking what I learned from him, I was to work with them and not get either of us hurt. In addition, I had quite a few lessons with him in the saddle. Improved my seat and my confidence.
Great lady, great story. One correction: “She frequently contributed her work to the Arizona Silver Belt, then called the Arizona Republic …” should be “then called the Arizona Record …”.
Thanks for the correction. We will make the edit in the article on-line. I remember Donna Anderson doing a piece for us several years ago about all the newspapers in the region and forget when the Silver Belt came into being. Better go back to her article and check that out. ~L
Thank you Johnny, I made the correction above. Much appreciated.
Thank you very much Linda it was a pleasure working with you and I hope you like the work we have done. Once again Thank you.
I was surfing net and frenutatoly came across this site and found very interesting stuff here. Its really fun to read. I enjoyed a lot. Thanks for sharing this wonderful information.
I am interested in contacting Selena? I want to have a camp dress made. Please share my email and phone number 209 298-5177 cell. Thank you Marla
HI: My family came from Globe from the 1880s to about May of 1976 when ‘Aunt Bell Taft” passed away. The Edwards, the Crawfords, Sawyers, Maldonado, Moreno, Kellners and others. Although most everyone, except the Edwards are now, gone. I’ve been in Love with Globe for both of my parents were born there and later I used to drive my ‘Granie’ in the early 60s to visit Aunt Belle & many other old friends. It was truly a labor of Love…getting out of Phoenix was nice and easy and Globe was always cooler. Dad got a Scholarship to the “U” of Arizona for Basketball & Football from Globe High and then into the Army Air Corps / USAF for 36 years….seldom looking back. With me, it has always been different, for I think Globe offers much to anyone ! So much family History here! THANK YOU,
SINCERELY,
Chuck
Thank you for sharing this article with us. It was beautiful.
I just read your Palmer Report for Oct. 28 to Nov. 3rd…as published in Globe-Miami Times, on facebook…wondering if your Palmer Report is only available via this site? I’ve apparently missed other reports via Globe Miami Times’ facebook page…..guess I’ve neglected to read the previous Palmer Reports via the G-M times posts on facebook.
the article is available on the Globe-Miami Times website and is also posted to FACEBOOK via StephenPalmer84.
I too remember the Keystone. When I was a 12 year old 7th grader in 1954, I was a Phoenix Gazette paperboy. To be more specific, Route 3 started at the old bus station at the corner of Highway 60 and Miami Avenue. I carried 27 papers at 35¢ per week, grossing $9.45. It cost me 5¢ per day to catch the bus back to the housing project. The bar on the corner next door to the waiting room had a great baseball pinball machine available for 5¢ a game and it was surprising how much I must have spent there while waiting around for my ride.
From there I headed for Miles Mortuary then to Adonis Ave where headed up the hill to the Miami Copper Co. My first stops there were to the management housing complex, the Almaden Club, the crusher, the hoist house and finally to the hospital. Ithen headed down the hill toward Sullivan and eventually back to Miami Commercial where my route ended.
My first delivery at the bottom of the hill was the Keystone Hotel located almost directly behind the side-by-side La Fiesta, La Paloma and El Rey restaurants. I never saw the inside because they woulnd’t even let me up the stairs! Instead, I had to ring the bell and wait for the madam to bring my 35¢ down to me. What a bummer.
My Dad worked for Mark Schwartz for years designing and building several jouse and businesses at the Country Club Manor deverlopment. In addition to Mark’s home he also built the Redwood Inn and Phil Sawaii’s cocktail lounge. My uncles Manuel Haywood and Bee Wilhelms both worked for my Dad as did my Grandfather Frank Morris.
On one occasion I heard Dad and Manuel talking and laughing about doing some repair and rewmodeling at the Keystone after a fire. The story line was that the girls at the Keystone were “so hot” they set the place on fire! Who knows how much truth there was in that coversation?
After the Keystone was closed a new hotel, the Copper something or other as I recall, was built on the corner of all places, Keystone Avenue and Highway 60 and became the new bus stop for service from the Globe-Miami area to the Valley.
The draft was still in effect and when we turned 18, all us guys had to register and have a physical which required taking the bus to Phoenix, being poked and prodded then hauled back home and released on our own recognizance. That would have been in 1960, the year I graduated from Miami High.
We all knew there was a brothel in the hotel but nobody admitted ever having been a customer there. We joked about it a little while we waited in the lobby for the bus when, low and behold, down the stairs came one of the girls who was taking a break. She had been one of our classmates at MHS! We all aughed and chatted with her for a few minutes before the bus arrived. I never saw her again after that but the memory still burns in my brain.
Yes, and the story i heard about people looking the other way, including law enforcement is that it ended when the new manager of the keystone had the audacity to advertise the business in the yellow pages. I believe that was in the mid-60s. That sorta in-your-face announcement of the activity made it all but impossible to ‘look the other way.’ Sigh. end of an era.
Hello, as I was doing some baseball research on my grandfather John L. Smirch catcher, baseball player for the 1925 “Douglas Blues” VS “Miami Miners’ game at Association park an exhibition game was played
Wednesday August 5,1925 Score Douglas -7 miners -0.
Does anyone have any information about purchasing a photograph of Association park in 1920’s era. in Globe,Arizona? Famous players that were on the field that date August 5,1925
listed, Joe Jackson, Hal Chase, Swede Risberg, Chick Gandil the banned White Sox later known as the Black Sox
Please call, John Smirch at 818-624-7510. Thank You.
I was born in October 1954 in Globe and then of course attended Globe schools K-12, graduating from GHS in 1972. I attended Noftsger Hill School for K-2nd, then I was sent to East Globe 3rd through 6th. My second grade Teacher was an African American Lady named Mrs. Moore. In those days young students (like 2nd graders) never asked about their Teachers background or given names, we all just assumed they were born Teachers and had no first name. (Obviously tongue in cheek) It is my memory that Mrs. Moore was a very good teacher.
I recall that upon returning from recess one afternoon she had arranged the desks in such a way that my desk was a sort of store counter and we played a game of Store with me being the clerk. It seemed like an honored position but I quickly realized the Clerk had to do all the Math of making change. I had to make change for the rest of the class until I made a mistake then another student took over as the Clerk. I still think that was a very good lesson for learning Mathematics and obtaining an understanding of how money is used. I think many students in many grades (not just 2nd graders) could learn from that lesson. I do not ever recall anyone making any racial comments about Mrs. Moore, to me she was my Teacher. Why would we (her students) question, her abilities, she seemed pretty smart to us. I am now 61 and retiring from a career as an Electrical Engineer so apparently I did learn a few things about Mathematics and I still have very fond memories of Mrs. Moore and my 2nd grade class at Noftsger Hill School. Not being aware of racial issues when I was in 2nd grade I hope Mrs. Moore felt as welcomed in Globe as a teacher and an individual as I feel she is endeared in my memory and welcomed in my heart.
Dave Marley
GHS class of 1972
Loved the article, with the exception of the comment that it took two contractors to tear down the old Miami High School because it was so solid. I came on the school board after the first guy left. He absconded after getting paid. We went to court and it went to the ninth district court of appeals where Miami lost because they had overpaid on the pay schedule. Then we had to hire someone to finish the job.
The legend is out there that it was too tough to tear down and as they say in the movie Liberty Valence,If there is a myth and a legend, go with the legend..
Hi L! Thanks for the comment and information – so interesting to hear more details of the story. The comment came straight from Tom Foster at Bullion. Sounds like this is a sidelight to Miami history that could use some looking into!
I agree! My Mother Graduated in 1946 and she said it shouldn’t have been torn down.
Love your article. I was raised in this small town and learned some great history from u today. I’m writing a blog where I was raised and stumbled upon your article and I’m glad I did! Thanks for the good read.
I have lived here all my life & am still awe struck by the beauty, history and the people in the Globe – Miami area!
Additional information regarding the FLLW Project in Globe-Miami may be seen on our Documents Page
https://www.globemiamitimes.com/documents-frank-lloyd-wright-school-architecture-globe-miami-project/
My brother works as an assistant county coroner in Butler County, Ohio, north of Cincinnati. It’s an upscale suburban community that has an exploding Heroine problem. Hundreds of twenty-something kids, many with college backgrounds, have access to high-quality heroine at low prices. Young people are dying…He tells me that the heroine dealers are doing classic marketing, introducing lightly cut “horse” at low prices, and then gradually decreasing the purity and increasing the price per dose. It’s crazy. Watch your youngsters closely! this is a serious issue!
How about basic journalism and tell us where Washington Park ? Perhaps located 20 miles north of Payson and 20 miles east East of Strawberry would give the reader a better idea ? SMH
Thanks Mike. Yes, we will add a map as well.
This is such a great article! Parents need to realize that the toy companies are a business and not out there for their child’s best interest! Thanks for sharing.
wow nice
Hi Patty, Prolotherapy is effective on Plantar Fasciitis, as long as the person is not on any anti inflammatory medications such as Advil, Aleve, and Motrin ect.
Before doing the Prolotherapy I would establish that we are dealing with Plantar Fasciitis and not some other condition that is causing the heel pain.
Maybe in the future I can do a dialog on Plantar Fasciitis?
My initial consultation fee is $130.00 with a 20% off when a person is self pay which comes out to be around $104.00.
Thank You for your question
Glen N. Robison DPM
Very inspiring ….
Wonderful story. Includes some real Arizona history. The old Globe cemetary holds many colorful individuals. Andy Hall is one of my favorite stories, lives through Powell’s first trip through the Grand Canyon to die in the Pinals during a mail robbery.
Many unsung tales except for local records or as recorded by Globe history.
This is my Aunt and Uncles house. We have started a GoFund Me page to try and help them rebuild. Judy and Sparky’s fire rebuild fund
Any help for the Parkhurst family is truly appreciated. m.gofund.me/vkmp9p-rebuild-fund?rcid=f8e774cfdb9845c89ba1843cf47a428c
Great to have found this sight. Hope to visit your city.
Is it not the responsibility of the school as well as bus driver’s to see to it this child gets on the right bus? My granddaughter can’t get on a different bus without my permission. Irresponsible if you ask me
Joe Skamel and Lee Ann Powers,
I was recently in Globe and visited both the Gila County Historical Museum and the cemetery. I have many family and past businesses ties to the Globe/Miami area. While there I saw my paternal grandfather’s headstone in section 18, row 3, lot 72. My maternal grandfather’s grave is listed in the Globe Arizona Cemetery Inscriptions book, page 192 should be in section 18, row 3, lot 69. In that location is a headstone of a less than four year old child having been buried eight years prior to my grandfather and yet the child’s lot number is 69-A. Very curious! I contacted the Lamont mortuary, previously (father & son) Jones mortuary, and spoke with very helpful Pam. She said that Lamont’s only record was a funeral sheet stating that same information. She was technically unable to forward it to me as it was on a very large sheet, 14 inches. If either of you have any ideas that I could pursue I would very much appreciate it. Please contact me directly by email with any information or questions/details. Thank you for your consideration, in advance.
Is the 60 still open in globe to show low
Yes it is.
Was not hackney hill was hackney
Very clearly observed and stated.
This country needs_ absolutely must have_ better government than this. Citizens like you, Jim Moss,are part of the answer.
Hello, I found this post when researching the Miami and Globe area and wanted to leave a message in case anyone has any information they could share. My grandfather was a Miner for the Miami Copper Co back through the 40’s. He was in a bar fight and as a result died back in Feb of 48′. I do know the bar was called Van’s Canteen but cannot find any information on it. I was wondering if anyone had photos or more information they could share. Also my father attended 1st grade at that time in Globe at a School called Osborn Grade School and cannot find information on that either. You can contact me at: brianpasadena28@yahoo.com , thank you.
My wife Tina and I met Gary by pure accident and found him to be a wonder person who has been a great person and glad to call him a friend and a good hearted person. God bless him. They broke the mold after God created him. What a truly great guy.
Henry, I completely agree! Gary is a sweetheart!
Thank you for a great article…I am heading there this weekend. My great great grandmothers first husband was Andrew Hammond not sure if he is the one mentioned that dug the first grave or not. I am truly amazed at how much knowledge is shared and help given to those of us looking for our ancestors.
Hello Patricia – thanks for sharing such a great summary of dysphagia. Many people miss mentioning the danger of aspiration. I work in the food services department for a group of nursing homes so this is a topic I stay on top of. Pneumonia from aspiration is deadly. Steps must be taken to prevent these folks from getting choked while eating. So, we take the consistency of any pureed foods very seriously so that the patient gets a nice smooth bolus of food that simply slides down without much work at all.
I thought there was a small station in Miami that was just off the highway on the right side of the road coming from Phoenix
There is.
I started collecting carbide lamps a year or so ago and now have over a dozen.
Recently purchased a force feed Hansen, but need a reflector for it. Can anybody help?
Great series! Thank you, Kim Stone and Dominion Firearms!
I thoroughly enjoyed this, born and raised in globe-miami😍
Thanks Brittany. Yes the music with the images of the area make this a good piece, especially for someone from here.
Apologies to Leslie and others who marched this year to Oak Flat. You make a valid point: this is a significant local event and is something Globe Miami Times would typically cover. Yet neither I, nor my staff of freelancers were around to cover the story this year as we have in the past. Again, I regret not covering it, since it appears there was less coverage this year than in the past by all media. For reader who want to know more, I would suggest this piece written in 2017 by John Washington for edible Baja Arizona which does an excellent job in outlining the importance of the annual march. see: https://ediblebajaarizona.com/whats-stake-oak-flat. And we will strive to do better next year. Linda Gross, Editor.
Thank you so much for article on AHA / Pinal Cemetery. My grandfather, Andres Magdaleno, was a miner who lived in Miami & was killed in underground mining accident in 1942. He was 43 years old & was buried in this cemetery. Do you know what will happen to the cemetery?
Rita: Thanks for your comment and prayers for your uncle. The Pinal Cemetery remains a challenge to maintain since it is largely owned by several private entities which do not have the resources. The County was there today with a crew of nearly 20 volunteers and did clean up – but more needs to be done. Please stay in touch and we will hope for a solution to this problem. The cemetery represents so much of the local history and lives which built this community.
Hello, my Grandfather and Uncle are buried at Pinal Cemetary. I came to try to find them but I could not. Oct 1929 us when they were buried there. One passed on Oct 8 and the On Oct 5. They were miners from Pitcher Ok. They came to Globe to try to heal there lungs, but they both passed just three days of each other, double funeral. I do have some new inf ormation on my Grandfather, but Iam not sure they have head stones or if they both do if you can still see inscription. I am coming back to Pinal to look again. It’s something I just need to do. My mother Grandmother and Aunt would Love for me to find them,
… And the school … “On a Hill Above Miami, Stands the Vandal Hall……” (Miami High School-1918), demolished by greedy people, no longer stands. Shame, Shame, Shame. A magnificent building, strong, sturdy… 1918 — a solid building, could be, being used today for the benefit of all the local and surrounding communities, and could be, on the historical site of Arizona buildings.
You are so right! I was in the last graduating class on the hill class of 1967 it was a shame a great building and also a great gym
Was there ever a Burbank Hotel in Miami, Az ? I cannot find any history and was told an antique piece I purchased (1912) came out of the Burbank Hotel in Miami, Az.
I’ve lived in Globe many years but this will be my first year to try the Home Tour. How many homes are visited?
They tell us it is 5-6 homes. Plus there will be a Cemetery Tour (tickets purchased separately), and Holy Angels Church will be open as well.
My husband & I came to John’ restaurant frequently & watch hockey. We sure miss Your cooking. Let us know if you’re cooking again. It would be worth the drive.
Best Wishes
Walt & Maria Kovaleski
Some ‘good news’ for Broad Street!
My Grandfather Pedro Limon and great uncle both are buried there and I believe my great grandmother is there too. Its so sad too see that the cemetery is such bad shape ,but it does comfort me to know that there are people who care and are trying to do something about it. Great story by the Globe Miami times
Thank you Andres.
The “US 60 CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL CAMPAIGN” is a great program – it should be an ongoing effort – not just for two months.
Thank you for sharing this report and thank you Mayor for taking the time to share the happenings of our city. I appreciate your hard work for the betterment of Globe.
Did they also come to Globe?
I don’t believe they did. We just got information on this and it seems the group was concentrated in Miami only. Looking for an update from the IDA on this in the future.
So so sad, I absolutely adore P.P.L and I find the best stuff there!! I’ll need to go stock up on as many pairs of their sandals as possible and her gorgeous tunics too!! 🙁 it’s a sad night for me now!
Wow Thea. I’m so proud of you. God has blessed many people through you.
Very good article. Are the burial records digitized ?Can anyone look at them
What are the future plans to preserve this cemetery
I live in Payson and would be willing to participate
Ron McCulley. rjmc1967@yahoo.com. 303 829 4073
I would like to be a part of this site,I live in Claypool.
My uncle worked at the mine near Seneca. He walked many miles to and from each day, winter snow, desert heat, he went to work. A faithful employee till it closed down. Sadly he died from lung cancer, mesothelioma, of course. I had other family worked there also. According to them, no one knew the danger of asbestos.
Anyone have one for sale? I’m looking for one…
Bryce,
I personally don’t know of any, but you might take a drive up there (about a 40 minute drive) or check with local realtors.
Kim
We have one we are planning to sell this summer. Call 435 215 7106 if you’re still interested.
My name is Gary Bell…
602-478-4193
Have been on that Mountain hundreds of times…
Would love to talk about your cabin
Did you ever sell your cabin?
In a few days, I’m coming to the cemetery to look for the graves of Apolonio Acosta 1851-1930 and his son, Trinidad Acosta d 1952. They were the grandfather and uncle of a friend. Is there a way to find out where to look for these graves? Other than close-up pictures on websites, I have nothing else to go on.
Thank you.
Good job, Jenn! The history of prostitutes in the Globe-Miami area is always interesting. Thank you for your thorough research.
The history of the Center For The Arts goes back to the early 1980’s. Many people with great vision worked hard to get this building, re model this building and give this building the life of art to share with all in this community.There have been many folks participate in growing this wonderful community place. Many participants have come and shared their talents and then moved on. But this place has always been an asset to the community because of the community. All were invited, young and old.
Since Kip has left us, much to soon, there have been those left to carry on the purpose. Molly no doubt has tried to keep the fires burning even with the other duties of her life. Her devotion is not in question.
What is in question is the direction of the executive board. They have a back room plan for the future of this Center and it seems that they want to cleanse the building of all that have come before them. How unfair to those of us who have treated this place like a second home. They need to be questioned! They need to be called out!! They need to hear our community roar!!! THIS IS OUR CENTER FOR THE ARTS and you can’t have it without a fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen to that auntie.
Ditto-
If they accept government money don’t they have to follow open meeting rules????
Sadly, no. https://www.azoca.gov/wp-content/uploads/Open-Meeting-Law-101.pdf
Closed door meetings? Shame, shame, shame!
It is time for the Mayor, City Council and the City of Globe to bring in mediation services in the CVCA executive board/board situation before the community loses the center.
This situation with the CVCA has to be resolved before more damage is done.
Thank you
Is this going to be open to the public? Are there any fees involved?
Yes. It is open now and the fees are very reasonable.
Hello my name is wanda. I was wondering if you guys buy rocks. I have a amithsty rock. It’s very beautiful.
Thank you to all of the parent that put on the dinner tonight! It was wonderful.
I’m looking for ANTOINO OLMOZ OR OLMOS. HE HAS A MUG SHOT FROM BEING DRUNK IN PUBLIC..MY MOTHER WAS BORN in MIAMI, AZ 1933 11/19 AND IM LOOKING FOR HER FATHER…HE WORKED IN THE MINES and I’m pretty sure he lived right across the chainlink fence from the mine.. I’LL SAY HE WAS BORN AROUND EARLY 1900’S..PLEASE HELP ME IF U CAN~~THANK YOU SO MUCH
I know for a fact a lot of the old time residents have been paying taxes for this for over 60 years and promised but never seen a sewer system. Here we go again, promises but only higher taxes for nothing. think about it people 60 plus years of taxes but no sewer. I also hear they want to charge according to property value so the ones with very little value will benefit the most if it happens. If it does happen it should be broken down to a fair price so everyone pays the same. The older folks who are on limited monies wont be able to afford this and will have to move. Taxation to death in a small community is not the answer. Time to vote a new board in.
Will this include the Central Heights area?
yes
Yes.
Where would the Gila County American fit into this list. It astarted in the mid sixties to inform about Evan Mechum and Sam Steiger. I think it lasted several years. it was coodinated by a Tom Anderson. It was a weekly
newspaper for Globe and Miami but was printed in Phx. Cyote Wolfe also wrote a times of yore column about the area. I have clipping from this paper but they are currently lost in the boxes.
I attended meetings for about two years to cover action for the Silver Belt. I know that when Globe City Manager Billingsley was in charge, the City of Globe was NOT interested when the TRSD board met with them. Miami on the other hand wanted, in fact needs us (the Tri-City area), but they were not willing to let us have any representation as to how things were run with their Freeport funded treatment plant. Who wants to be taxed and not represented or have a say in what is being done? Even though there was a county requirement that cesspools must be replaced, many in the TriCity area have not done that, they simply dig a new hole because it has not been enforced. Also, NO ONE has wanted to step up and run for the Tri City board. When was the last time you voted on a Sanitation board member? Years, because no one will run. Even now two positions are up for election but no one is running against the incumbents, so whoever is up will simply remain. One position is still empty after having about three people serve and resign. I understand What Mr. Barcon is saying and I agree that things are not as they should be. BUT, if you don’t participate in the process, you get what you let happen. Where are the younger people? Those of you in your 30’s and 40’s if you intend to live here, you better start defining the rules rather than letting things just happen. Remember when you get hit with these dollars amounts and you are retired, you did not step up.
Christine :
After a short period of time, it’s all out there for everyone who knows you ! EUCLID AVE
benefited from that deal NOT the other way around. You are very intelligent,well spoken and a belong to
a group of gifted people from Globe that are ‘The Ambassadors’ in every sense of the word. Thank You,
personally, for all you do for people in general ,but also for Globe, in particular !! BEST WISHES
Chuck
Arizona plays BYU this Saturday not Arizona state. Ken Giovando played for the Arizona Wildcats.
Thank you Jeff for pointing out our error in listing it as ASU and not U of A. We just made the correction .
How can the community help?
This is a wonderful exhibit to come to our community!
A caption under a picture of Giovando in an Arizona Daily Star article written by Greg Hansen on 9/1 read that he returned both interceptions for touchdowns. His article doesn’t actually stipulate that and neither does yours, which I though should be emphasized.
I would like to add to the above article that the Glock for the raffle was donated by Dominion Firearms, LLC.
The gun is on display in the store and tickets can also be purchased there.
You are raffling a gun to support the police. Good grief.
Love the fish stories and the reality of fishing. Keep us updated on the fishing stories of these two.
What a great article!! Very well written!
Thank you,
Amy Schugar
Would so enjoy touring the mine!
Please send information!
Is panning allowed?
Oh the wonder of actually finding the perfect piece that God made and sent my way! What a blessing!
We don’t have any mine tours in the area at this time.
My great great grandfather Jose Barba was buried there in 1931. Unfortunately, when I went there a few years back I was told that he was buried in the unmarked “Mexican Section” so I was only able to see the approximate location of his grave.
Dr. Wilshire seems way too young to be retiring until one learns about her myriad accomplishments. It sounds like she found her perfect fit in San Carlos. May her future endeavors bring her joy and satisfaction as well.
would like to vote no for sewer hook up in Central Heights have brand new septic and leach field
Very much educational and, informative. The beauty of a well placed stone can speak volumes or even move mountains and to know the actual truth rests so georgeously uniform in a well made handcrafted piece from a mine that holds it’s secrets and defines the eye of the beholder!!! Thanks for the article.😎😎
The meetings I attended were way too confusing and most questions were contradicted by the engineer and the lawyer. Yes it is being forced on the people of this community. I am on the phase 3 project which they will not get to us for several years. By the time they get to us inflation will have hit us soo hard that I’m afraid that we will pay twice as much as they are proposing. This sounds pretty shady to me. I do not agree with what they are proposing and do not intend to go along with this..
Globe is a great, old mining town of tremendous value to Arizona. It’s worth the trip no matter you come
from to see the History of the early West. Part of my family arrived 1879 while the other half came around
1890 and although most have moved, WE still consider Globe, our home ! We have family names that
reflect this vibrant community like….Kellner, Taft, Sawyer, Moreno, Maldonado, EDWARDS. HENDERSON,
BYWATER…….COME SEE US !!
Excellent recommendations. Well done. These are some of the same highlights I recommend to visitors after exploring the area myself.
Thanks, Lika! Do you have any other recommendations for visitors?
Is this in print? I have a friend coming to Globe in April. She lives in Connecticut and has not previously “experienced” Globe.
Hi, Dan. This article is in the most recent print issue of GMT — look at the bottom of the first page. You might also send your friend a link to the online GMT.
You left out Quayo’s On The Trail and Quayo’s El Rey in Miami, Arizona, I grew up in Globe/Miami, Arizona, you left so much info off about the area, the Besh-Ba -Gowah Museum and ruins, Roosevelt lake, Salt river which are only 1/2 hour away same for the Salt river canyon,
Thanks for adding your favorites!
Jenn
I know this article is a bit old but has the course been revitalized. I was there in the mid 2000’s and it was fantastic then. Sad that it was let to be run down so bad. The lay out is very nice. We were visiting from Alberta Canada.
Thanks Kent!
I’m showing my biological father is in a grave there his name was allen ray warner shows he died November 2012 where can I get a computer of death .
Where is the location of all this?
It is downtown Miami. Mostly within 3-4 blocks and easy waking distance between venues.
great story telling! good read 🙂
Penachos is what they were called?
Good morning, Ms Giles. Several years ago I attended an art exhibit in Miami, AZ. There was a room that was holding a silent auction, and in the room there was a display of horses painted on sandstones. The person I spoke with at the exhibit told me the artist was Marianne Collins.
I would very much like to get in touch with Ms. Collins to see if she still has any of the sandstone paintings, I was very impressed with her work. Could you point me in the right direction of getting a hold of Ms. Collins?
Thank you for your anticipated help.
I also wish to contact Marianne Collins to commission a work of art from her. Can you help?
Marlene, I’ll see if I can get ahold of her for you. I don’t think I have a current phone.
Looking for my uncle Leonardo Rubalcava, died around 1927 in Globe from an auto accident. Buried in the area. Where? He was my father’s brother. His father was Bernardo & his mother was Tomasa. I tried finding him before, but no luck. If, you can help great! Thank you.
Bernado, you might check out the Gila Historical Museum. They keep historical records on both cemeteries. And Find A Grave is useful for research.
GMTimes has only been here since 2006, so another place to check is the Arizona Silver Belt. You can find old papers on line through newspapers.com.
Best of Luck!
Chichi lelele viva Chile!!!!!! Hey Miguel you rock representing Chile in AZ. You will be shining always with your great creative ideas. I had lunch at the Barmacy and it was great and the hotel is so welcoming and warm.
all the best from this Chilean compatriot lady
Anamarie Zelmanovits
Would this have been a $3 per month, per household, rate increase?
Joy, that’s what it looks like. Not sure if this was anything the Council brought up to the public before making the decision, or what the timeline was that the city was under to resolve the issue. I’ve got a reporter working on a follow up story and we will post more info when that is done.
Baloney
Love this man, and now I miss that I did not see him again. He was a master at BMW’s……
I have a large painting Renick did for me when we both lived in MI. I have been trying to locate him for the last year. If possible would you let him know Bethlynn Sanders would love to be in touch with him. I will come to see him in CO if he would like a visitor.
Hi, Bethlynn,
What a gracious offer! I relayed your request to his former wife who organized the art show and from whom I received his contact info. I hope you are able to connect with him.
Sincerely, Thea
I loved this book, and have more than one copy in my library! I particularly liked the author’s style…. The story is woven between the journey of the author in discovering her ancestor’s pioneer story, the journal written by her ancestor, and the news that was happening then from the pages of the historic newspaper.
It’s unfortunate that this book is not readily available… although you can find it online.
Thank you for highlighting the work of Dr. Willem de Reuse! We’re grateful for his contributions and partnership with those who are dedicated to the study and preservation of the Apache language.
This is a great idea and a long time coming. Solopreneurs and digital nomad-types will love the opportunities of this kind of workspace.
So proud of you all for making Miami Beautiful , again A special Thankyou to Patty , what a talented person she is
My mom Elizabeth White was Senator Hardt’s Secretary at the AZ State Senate for many years (& my dad Cliff White & mom moved to Miami in 1949-my dad being a school teacher there)-I read this article to my mom just now & she said it was the best article she’d ever heard about him! Of course working close with him daily for over 25 years she knew a lot about him! She would like to know if u would send her a hard copy re-print of this article for her own personal library please?
I remember Liz very well. She was always very nice to me.
That probably sounds weird. I am senator Hardt’s grandson. And I agree its a very nice article.
Thanks for the Words of Wisdom. We are a qusitive specie and that is why we have made such progress. If we stop asking questions, we begin the journey to extinction. In 1900, the Director of the US Patent Office in Washington, DC made the statement that it should close because everything that could be discovered, had been. ‘Change indicates growth. He who is through changing, is through growing.’
Great information! My grandmother in the 1940’s would launder clothes for some Apache women. I remember the lovely skirts hanging on the line.
Curious to know if any of the cabin owners ever rented their cabins to the general public for weekends etc?
Ron- I would try one of the local realtors in Globe. Or perhaps http://www.airbnb.com or http://www.vrbo.com.
This was an interesting article but I disagree with the statement “Curley is one of the only Apache designers out there.” There are many Apache dress designers to my knowledge.
Hi, my grandfather was Clifford Upton. This article was very informative. I started working in the Phoenix candy stores when I was 10. Helped make Easter baskets every year also. My grandfather always brought home a carton of ice cream when my sister and I stayed the night. I live in Sedona now and hope to get to Globe this winter. I have some nice pictures of the Globe candy store.
Sincerely, Nancy O’Hara
Nancy, we would love to see your photos when you are in Globe this winter. ~Linda
Hi there! I recently purchased a large menu board from Upton’s and would love to send a photo in or see if anyone in the family is interested in purchasing it. It’s great to have an incredible piece of history!!
Please feel free to email me at caileeworkman@gmail.com if you are interested.
I was praying everyone is safe Sorry ste up a gofund me Miami.All that matters is no one is injured and the disability groups are safe Thank you all that helped praying the firefighters are safe thank you and God Bless you.
A tragedy for the historic town of Miami.
Miami was my home town . Was raised there and always walked the town to the pool , park, and just the area. Family is from there . This is so sad . Thankfully no one was seriously hurt. Thank u to all the ones who helped .
Roseann(Hinojos) Palomino
This was painful to read, however, given the age, probably ancient wiring, and proximity, it is not a complete surprise, but it is a surprise no one was killed or injured. Old buildings such as these go up like cracker boxes. God bless the firemen who put their own safety aside to protect life, home, and business, and God bless and help those who owned buildings and businesses in that area.
Nice article Carole. Good job writing about a sad but historic time. Very descriptive.
Your publication and timely reporting are beyond awesome. If you are not careful, the Globe Miami times is going to become our area paper of public record if it not already has.
Thanks for the kind words. We can never replace weekly coverage, but we do what we can and hope to add depth to the stories we do cover.
As regulars to Sullivan Antiques, Guayos and the events in Miami, we are so sad and can only hope this is an opportunity for Miami to pull together and grow. So grateful no one was hurt.
A fine article David, thoroughly enjoy your writing!
My first job was with Leonard Paul’s pizza on broad Street💗 I will never forget the Cigarbox we used for a cash register💗 I will always be thankful for that little pizza place and the kind man that taught me how to be a good worker💗
What a great memory. Thanks for sharing.
Have been to New York and Chicago but none to me are half as good as Leonard Paul’s. It will always be my favorite pizza and my kids love it now too. So thankful they remain committed to stay in business.
52nd and Thomas is it now Divitos? That’s my Phoenix Home Hood when not in Roosevelt. Can’t wait to try your Pizza up in Globe!
I graduated GHS in 82. Everyday we walked there and got a slice and a soda. I think the price was 1.25. Haven’t lived in AZ in decades but your pizza is STILL my favorite !!!! Stopped in 20 years ago and got a slice of heaven. Glad to read this article and see you still succeeding !!! You don’t fedex to CA do you? lol
I graduated from Globe high school in 1994, I still Love Leonard Paul’s pizza even though I live in Bullhead city now. I ask my mother who lives in Globe To bring me a pizza whenever she come to visit me. 😄
I benefitted from the earlier mistakes and the best pizza ever. I remember him from his San Carlosdays as a PE teacher and seeing him disappear and reappear in Globe. It is always a landmark when I visit Globe. The best I have had. It bears the Cicilian Pizza I have had in Washington DCand Dallas and Houston, and I like PIZZA!
The pizza is great…. the people working have always been so nice and funny every time I walk in. Like your family, that just stopped in for a visit. And beyond the amazing pizza and service, the memories in that patio area… the memories are irreplaceable. It’s a piece of home. Love this place.
Leonard Paul’s pizza is the Best all around I wish you guys would open up a shop in the valley
Congratulations Daisy and Trent (and Sancho)! Can’t wait for the Grand Opening!
We would love to visit , we will be in town for Thanksgiving weekend, will u be open , so excited to come see
As usual, Rural is always low man on the totem pole. Because we are only a few in the scheme of things we don’t have high priority. But, THANKS to Local First AZ, things they are a changing !
In the meantime, while waiting for funds, could measurement sticks be placed along the road, showing the depth of the water?
Hi Patti,
Great article. I have an investment property for sale in Miami. Would you know anyone who would be interested?
Land or home built?
My thoughts are with the family. His memories will leave smiles on the faces of those who knew him.
Thank you for those precious gifts that will last a lifetime.
My heart ached and I cried my tears when I first learned of my brother Johnny’s serious illness. He fought his illness with courage as Jesus was always there for him to lean on. The numbers cannot be counted of the men, women and children brother Johnny helped along throughout his life. He was there when family members passed on and he lovingly dedicated our children to Christ. Our families grew up together in the Arizona copper mining town of Superior. The gospel music that seemed to flow endlessly from Johnny will always be a healing in itself. And now, there is only victory in Christ for our beloved brother Johnny Curtis. -Isaac Curley (Apache/Navajo)
Amen Glory Hallelujah we love Johnny Curtis here in Klamath Falls Oregon Klamath County Chiloquin all of us turn the Klamath tribes I remember a brother curly who used to come to our family and in fact I don’t know if you’re related to the same Pastor curly brother curly who went to Glory identity he was very close to my first cousins Carmen c r a i n Brenda all of our family God bless us all brother Curtis passed away in glory but my condolences to his beautiful family who shared him with us we love you from here to Klamath County My Utmost For His Highest we’re almost home the journey is almost over ice natives were no stranger to loss and tragedy but we got hope we’re on the winning team Aho War whooping or you Johnny Curtis and your beautiful family
Hi, this is Roxanne Seoutewa from Zuni, NM. Is there a deadline for the artists on this Arizona American Indian Festival. 2020. In Scottsdale; Feb 8 & 9, 2020.
Roxanne, this is not our event, so you’ll need to contact them directly. Good luck.
Roxanne – you can find information for artisan booths on the website: https://arizonaindiantourism.org/azindianfestival/ Look for Event Forms.
he City of Globe also saves approximately $25,000 a year through the use of solar energy pv at the sewage treatment plant…money saved that can go toward other needs…that $25K could be used for other things such as “street maintenance, parks or any of the other items normally placed in the budget,”. “In general, though, it can be seen as a reduction in the overall electricity costs to the city.”!!!
Where can I find this book
You might try the Gila Historical Museum, or Abes Books [vintage]. I don’t believe it is in the libraries.
I notice in the video there’s a lot of high and low spots as the ‘road’ crosses the river. If those could be evened out, to eliminate the deep parts and allow for a consistent depth it would increase safety.
My question, why did development start out there in the first place, if they knew that the Tonto Creek existed? If access to your property is blocked by a river for weeks at a time, just find someplace else to buy land and build.
Any vendor arts n craft booth available
Jo, you can find this information at their website.
Hi,
My father was born in Globe in 1915, but left before he was 6. My great-grandfather (A. B. von Lange) and my father’s infant brother (Ralph Houser) are both buried in the cemetery there. I visited their graves back in 1973 (I’m from New York). My grandmother had a friend who was a local photographer who had her own studio in Globe sometime in the pre-1920’s. Her name was Reeves or Reaves, and we used to have many of her photographs. I happened to visit this site while looking up the names of a few Globe women I have a photo of (of three girls sitting on the fender of a parked roadster. Their names were Evelyn Hicks (who I see married a man named Jackson, and she had become a WASP during WWII), the other woman in the photo was named (I believe) Frances Tyler Royster)
The article said Bill worked in Baltimore so he would have been the Bill Taylor at WITH in Baltimore. I really enjoyed his show. Sadly he was only here 6 months in 1965. The first week he was on from 9 till noon. Then he switched to 12-3 and then later to 6-9 am. I also have a tape of him at WERC I think. Duluth, MN anyway.
Two other things. Did this show originate from Phoenix? And trivia about the name Bill Taylor. Los Angeles had two Bill Taylor’s. This Bill Taylor who worked at KIQQ and another Bill Taylor who worked at KFWB years ago,
That is same Bill Taylor who worked at KFWB then years later George Wilson brought him back to K100 ( KIQQ )
The station id Duluth was WEBC.
Is BHP going to return all the money the community raised and invested in the park? How is BHP going to compensate the community for lost tourism and tax dollars?
The Old Dominion Mine Park Committee is working with both the city and BHP to propose new trails and a new section of the historic property to be included in the city’s easement for park usage. BHP has committed to move every feature we will lose and/or replace them, as well as support the fabrication of new signs to educate about fascinating features in the new section. We may end up with a bigger park and a longer trail system because of this change, not counting the possible return of our lost section after tailings remediation is completed. We are also talking to BHP about a possible connector trail between the Old Dominion Park and Round Mountain Park. Most of the land between those two parks is owned by BHP.
We were thrilled to finally be able to visit the Old Dominion Mine Park. My Great Grandfather, Archie Ollson worked as a miner and then a hoist engineer in the mine. My Great Grandmother gave birth to my Grandmother Myrtle O D Olson. We have always been told she was the first child born in the Old Dominion Hospital, so she got the initials as her middle name. I was thrilled to finally find a location for the hospital. We have searched for a long time. The timing does not work though if the hospital was erected in 1906 and she was born in May of 1912. Maybe the annex was built in 1912. I am having a hard time finding any information on it. Anyway, we were surprised to find out the week after we came, that the loop the hospital was located on will be closing and I never would have had the opportunity to walk the trail. Thank you so much for your hard work and the time spent so I could re live my grandparents lives. It was great.
The ignoble end which is referenced here is demolition. The City was going to tear it down – because the back of it presented a public hazard, as the crack spread- and it was Kip Culver, who worked behind the scenes to find buyer who would invest in the building: repairing the crack and restoring it to active use in our historic downtown. That person was James Dowly. Without this, that corner which had stood so proudly for 100 years – would be a concrete slab. That is why preservation is such a critical element in a unique downtown like ours.
Another scar on the Sacred Mountain. 😞
Hello. I am interested in learning how to nominate someone to the Miami sports hall of fame?
I believe you can call the Miami Library and get that information. Or Miami High School.
Hello Patrick,
I just saw your name and was wondering. Did you have family in Miami during the 1920 and 1930’s? I had my grandparents and my grandfather played on the 1928 basketball team that went to Chicago to play.
I never saw a more beautiful woman in my life, especially when she was younger, more beautiful than Elizabeth Taylor, Grace Kelly, Lena Horne, Ava Gardner, all of them….she could have been a mega star. Well, what a standout individual if there ever was one.
Hi my name is Nancy Lynn Prendergast Williams. I’m so proud to say I was named after this amazing women. My family & Nancy were very close. I come from rodeo family’s on both sides & I was in rodeo to. Thnk you you Nancy Shepard for being the women I always looked up too.
Do you know if there is a # for the cemetery so I can talk to someone? I have been out twice looking for my sister’s grave. Will be out again in April 2020. I just recently got her death certificate and she is buried there. My grandfather is , as well. We did find his headstone, but I would like to put a marker on hers, as my parents could not afford one when she passed. She passed in 1969. Thank you.
This event has been canceled.
Well said, Linda. I’m concerned that people of faith will find that faith shaken as this continues, because they have expectations of God that won’t be borne out. I believe we’re all okay in the end, God has all of us in his hands. But it doesn’t mean he’s going to save us from illness and possibly death, if WE aren’t lifting a finger. I do believe in prayer, but that prayer can’t be sincere if we’re not ourselves doing all we can. He wants us to learn to love and care for ourselves and our neighbors. Not to ask Him to excuse us from that responsibility (and its rewards). That’s my belief.
So I hope everyone is taking good care, washing their hands, and expanding their concern to all their brothers and sisters during this crisis.
The Armers were our neighbors for many years in Tempe. They are great people !
How about mechanics
Yes, auto mechanics are considered essential as we all know!
Are you open during the lockdown??
This is the notice they posted in March. I would suggest calling since things are continually evolving with all businesses.
As of March 17, 2020, the Arboretum is OPEN, but is canceling all walks, tours, activities,
events, and programs until further notice. We encourage all community members to follow
the advice of the CDC when choosing whether to visit any outdoor venue.
Very informative blog post about native American turquoise jewelry artists. Artwork done by these artists is phenomenal. Thanks for sharing this with us!
Looking for real turquoise to replace fake for a mounting.
Hi John,
I would suggest you call Pickle Barrel Trading Post and see if they can recommend anyone.
I believe they should stay put for now and see what one more week has in store for us. I am staying in because Ive had quadruple open heart surgery Plus just started on diabetic meds to control diabetes and am just as tired as the next person about staying home. one more week would at least put us close to the end of the month like originally planned. Lets be smart. Quitting now would be like GIVING UP TAKING YOUR ANTIBIOTICS BEFORE YOUR DONE BECAUSE YOUR FELLING BETTER.
People in the Globe Miami and San Carlos area are not taking this pandemic serious. You see people standing around big groups. You go inside a store people don’t wear mask, don’t wear protective gloves, and they are all standing close together talking. In my opinion people don’t think we will get many cases here in our local area but as you can see our number just keeps growing.
I don’t think anything should be open in our area for at least one month. I hope the stay at home order stays in effect. I feel sorry for the businesses were closed and I commend the businesses that are open. The restaurants here have been outstanding and I want to thank the hospital workers for doing with her doing at work.
I don’t think anything should be open in our area for at least one month. I hope the stay at home order stays in effect. I feel sorry for the businesses were closed and I commend the businesses that are open. The restaurants here have been outstanding and I want to thank the hospital workers for doing with her doing at work.I hope people will start paying attention to the CDC recommendations so we can get this pandemic behind us.
CONGRATS SAN CARLOS..STAY STRONG!! I have relatives living there, so I’m really happy to know this!! Cornmeal down…prayers up!!
UPDATE: Whitlow Fire at 75% containment, no new fire growth
PHOENIX, April 24, 2020 — For Immediate Release. Containment lines for the Whitlow Fire, in the Hewitt area, held again overnight resulting in no new fire growth. The additional nine acres over yesterday is a result of more accurate mapping of the fire.
The Whitlow Fire is still under investigation. There are no structures threatened and no evacuations are in place. Please continue to avoid the Hewett Station area as firefighters make progress towards full containment, which is anticipated this weekend.
“Please adhere to the campfire restricts in place,” said Clint Remington, Incident command for the Whitlow Fire. “Due to significant grass grow, public awareness and vigilance is appreciated.”
Currently there are about 30 firefighters assigned, including 1 hotshot crew and two engines. Today, firefighters will continue to focus on extinguishing hot spots within the fire’s interior. The fire is burning in grass and brush.
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I would love to Buy some ov you delicious veggies & Fruits , but when I heard about Persimmon that was my Dad’s Favorite if you get my Message , I would love to Bury some
Scam artist!! Guy still owes me over $20,000. What a piece of crap. I hope he goes to prison for a long time.
Thank you for speaking up. I have also been scammed by him and Libby Campbell with “Offero Homes” Please contact me as I really want to compile our cases and bring them to an authority that will charge him for the obvious pattern of fraud that he’s committing across the country. It may be our only hope to at least put him behind bars. My name is Cameron Tall, number is 602.999.8255 and email is Cameron@NorthLight.US
Please reach out to me as soon as you receive this.
Hi there Cameron. I’ve tried contacting you several times but have yet to hear back. Let me know if you are still interested in getting with all of us on this
This seems to be a family trait. I’m currently in the middle of an issue with another family member who was recently released from prison in Puerto Rico for identity theft and stealing $12 million from a retired NYPD officer who was only in Puerto Rico because he saved a little girls life. That same family member has also been convicted of credit card fraud against elderly citizens in Texas! Michaels father has also had similar legal problems and I haven’t started digging up anything yet on other relatives yet but I will because they all need to be stopped and shouldn’t get away with this! Help me put a stop to these manipulative con artists! Please reach out to me at CONdelarioscasualties@gmail.com! I don’t want them stealing from or hurting anyone else!
The guy from Puerto Rico was his brother Jeremy. He is another scam artist who had some scam cases in Texas. He said he was a marine (he never was, his brother Greg was the one in the Marines) and spreaded the news he died at war. Well, this past week, apparently he died again, we dont believe is true as they are sharing a sketchy story about he commiting suicide and finding his body almost a month after, there is nothing in the news or anything to follow. This needs to be investigated further.
It’s true and can be verified on the medical examiner’s website
Hey we’re working on taking him down. Please email me at Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com. The more people we have the better!
Help make that happen! Contact me if you want to be included!
Ian and his wife Cathy are very caring individuals and always happy to lend a hand wherever needed. Ian has taken care of many of my family members who have passed on and each time showed the care and dedication to each one of them and their families. They have become a part of my family and Globe/Miami/San Carlos is lucky to have them as a staple in the community.
Thank you for this article. I have worked with Ian for the funeral of my parents he is such a professional and a good man. Thank you for shining a spotlight on him.
I have been very anxious to read this article about our much-loved friend, Ian. I would have liked a little more expansion about the statement that cremations went from 20% to “65- 70%, higher than the national rate of nearly 55%.” So, how did that affect Ian and his business? I know there is no crematorium in the Globe/Miami area, so it has to add to the time, at least. Some who are cremated are also buried. One assumes that cremation is cheaper than burial. How does this factor into things?
Thank you for an important article about something many of us avoid thinking about. Ritual, dignity, departure… It’s nice to know there are folks dedicated to making this come together for all of us who don’t plan to die.
I used to clean bar every week. Loaded shot gun shells in basement. Shot a hole where he kept liquor behind wood on wall. Bracco, woods and many more locals lived there.
I like what you did with place. Globe still has best Mexican food on the planet! On my next trip through, will definitely stop by and share some old-time memories.
He bounced my last two checks for over $10k, put $5k on my credit card, and has lied his face off trying to make false claims against my character after I worked for him for over a year.
Hey we’re working on taking him down. Please email me at Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com. The more people we have the better!
Please reach out to me, my name is Charlotte my email address is Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
Thank-you for sharing your newsletter, I sure do appreciate your communication.
I will have a new email address which I will share in the cell below, as I would like to continue receiving your newsletters.
I met an old man who claimed he wrote The Strawberry Roan in the early 1900s. He also said, as a kid he rode in the chuck wagon on a cattle drive with the black man who wrote the Yellow Rose of Texas back in the 1800s. I spoke with him around 40 years ago. The rodeo champion Shoat Webster brought him to my home in Lenepah, Oklahoma to meet me. I wish I had written down his name.
What happened to the Mayor was inexcusable. It had absolutely nothing to do with Covid 19. For everything he has done for the community he gets a slap in the face. I don’t blame him for resigning. He deserved better. My prayers go out to him and many blessings for his future. I have known Darryl since high school. He is such an amazing man and I am proud to call him a friend.
Chrysotile is an amazing place. I am lucky enough to be able to have visited it.
I own part of Chrysotile AZ..Have an old cabin there–was told it was the residence of the assistant & mine superintendent…2 story cabin/built in 1909–A truly unique place to visit, however one has to obtain access to it/it is behind a locked cable gate, w/mountain on one side & deep canyon on the other so no access by 4 wheel vehicles w/o assistance of owner…unless one walks the last mile on private property…
HI Clyde. By any chance do you have a contact number for the owner? I would love to Photograph the old buildings. I’m a big ghost town fan nd a history lover. I post a lot of photos in 2 web pages on Facebook. thank you for your time in this matter.
Dayna Villanueva
We are rock hounds and have a club. Was wondering if we could get permission to visit the town of Chrysotile for a field trip?
Hi Jennifer, I would suggest you check in with the Chamber of Commerce to answer this question. Their number is 928-425-4495.
Hello Clyde, I have knowledge of the old Chrysitile of mine, later changed to the Regal mine, outside of Globe. My fathers company D W Jaquay’s Mining and Contracting Co. took over the mine I think in the late 50’s or early 60″s. My brothers and me spent many days there, and my grandfather was the onsite manager for a few years. We would go there javelina hunting during the season, as well as whitetail hunting, (the hill right behind the house was a hot spot) but also did some chores around. the mine. there was an old two cylinder generator that come on by demand, and the house was actually a nice house. I remember spending an entire work shift inside the mine, was not fun and didn’t ant to do it again, I was bout 10 years old at the time. The oar was usually attached to rock, and by hand the workers, all Native Americans from the area, would separate with a pick type hammer. was fiber green in color, the the largest pieces they would set aside, was actually pretty to look at. Not sure if this thread is still looked at?, sad to see those photos from there now.
On August 26, 2019, I also had the unpleasant dealings with this con artist….I have a bounced check for $773.57 that I even tried calling his bank BBVA in Gilbert and to no avail……….my product is at this point sitting in the house on Cedar Street and have tried contacting real estate agent that was selling unit for Candelario and they said they couldn’t help me even, at least retrieve my merchandise. What a crock!
He has scam going back 10-15 years if you search his entire name. He scammed a MMJ dispe scary out of 150k. He was listed as the GM at the dispensary as well. He is a snake that owes EVERYONE. He will make open threats like “burning reputations” and “he know where you live”, when asked when payment / payroll time comes. Meet this man with aggression when dealing with him and know he’s only out to scam you
It goes back further than that my friend!
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
Any information on the new place he has been working on next to bloom?
Work is still going on to get the place ready to open – hopefully this Fall – but what that opening will look like I suspect will depend on where we are at with covid rates etc.
Hello, my name is Randy Cosseboom and I have two grand parents, Joseph & Maude Valentine buried at the Pinal Cemetery. Every Memorial day, my family and I come up to clean up their grave site which is always covered with weeds and to place flowers on the grave. This past Memorial was probably the worst it has ever been. We have been doing this since the late 60’s early 70’s. I is a family tradition. There is a cement foundation surrounding the burial site with the interior covered with a combination of wood, dirt and decorative rock. I would like to concrete this in if possible. I just need to know who to contact to see about getting this done. Please advise. By the way, I live in Gilbert, AZ. I have no problem driving up to the Miami area to meet with someone that can help me with this project. Thank you for your time and help on this matter.
You might try checking in with Pinal Lumber and see if they have names of people who might do this for you.
It’s always good to hear about our Hispanic Heroes.
hello where can i find a cheap spay and neuter for my dogs here in gila county and i am on ssi so i dont have a lot of money and i need to get my males fixed and also my females and also i need to get there rabie shots also
thank you
christina dahling
Why is FR 203 closed ? I run this road frequently and do a lot of exploring. Please respond and I hope I read this incorrectly. Thank you for your time.
I’m looking to buy some scott highland cattle. I’m I’m in Wilcox AZ.
Do you have any for sale?
Thanks Bill Taylor for playing cuts from our record album “The Jaedes”(1969) I Frederick Blackmon wrote the originals and arranged the covers along with the legendary arranger Richard Powell. We”re still being heard all over the planet. Thanks and more thanks.
My grandfather, Clifford Upton, started a candy business in Globe in the early 1900’s. He married my grandmother, Edith Hammons, there around 1915. I realize Carmen would have been very young, but wondering if she remembers anything about the Hammons or Uptons.
Sincerely,
Nancy O’Hara
I was told, recently, by the Globe City Manager, that the “changes” I suggested in the processing of a mentally ill person, in crisis,–were not in the city’s “budget.” That the way things are done, havr “always been that way, so why change them now.”
Well, guess what, there are more and more mentally ill persons living in Globe, now, and these changes NEED to be made, or else there will be more SUICIDES. (Mine included.)
I had yet another experience with CBI negligence, yesterday: I went to our ER feeling suicidal; was evaluated by Yvonne, the CBI crisis person and she IS SUPPOED TO find a bed for me at Sonora Behavioural Hospital, in Tucson; after sitting in ER for 2 hrs. with no human contact, I inquired about going to that psyche hospital–no-one knew what was happening, and Yvonne, CBI crisis person, had left the hospital; she never told me if there was a bed available, she didn’t even tell the staff at the ER anything, she just left me hanging;
Well, I called my hubby to come and please pick me up from the hospital, and he did and I went home; NO-ONE came to check on me, make sure I hadn’t killed myself–which was my initial intention; NO-ONE came the next day either; these are people I was relying on to keep me from killing myself; I had a deputy originally take me to the hospital, as I did not want to go in an ambulance.(one of the “changes” I wanted to change when I spoke with the city manager, so many weeks ago,)
I have had to “overmedicate with sleep aids” today, just to not go off the deep end, because the ER and the crisis team has let me down, and I feel like suing them all for gross negligence.
Things, in this area of mental health, in City of Globe need to change!
He recruited me to work as his bookkeeper for a while back in 2017. I was elated to take the position. Then one day he announced he was going to Vegas to a convention and when I came back to work the office was empty and the locks had been changed. Worked for him for 4 months and never got paid one dime. He stole the inventory of the company he had purchased and left them high and dry. I wish I would have known who he was, as I surely might have been able to do something at that time. I actually met Anthony Albano, who at the time was posing as his financial advisor & attorney. Probably part of the scan as well. He was married with children and screwing around with at least two of the harem of ladies that fell for his story. So sorry I had to fall victim along with all of you.
Contact me! Let’s take them down!
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
Globe-Miami is absolutely the best place to get and eat Mexican food! I have shared that fact with many people from all over the world. Nothing compares to the Mexican food in that area! I don’t think I knew what a burrito was until I was an adult! Also… no one know what a regular burro is or buttered tortilla unless you grew up in Globe-Miami… Ask a Mexican food restaurant to bring you a hot buttered tortilla and you will be disappointed if you don’t get a weird look for asking for one. I too am a fan of the pasty and cheese boat. My Aunt Fran made the BEST cheese boats!
Globe -Miami is also a place filled with history! Fun place to explore…the cities, the mountains and the lakes… Loved your article…
he was my grandpa and i loved him so much that he put smiles on everyones faces and he still smiled when he was bitteled with cancer.
My family (last name Corn) lived in Globe, MIAMI, and Superior during the times that these books are written. They worked in the mines. My Grand Father was Frank Corn. He died in 1944.
Thanks for sharing guidance related to camping opportunities in the tonto national forest. Keep writing.
Love the site. I was born in Miami, 1940. My dad was a mining engineer who came to Miami for the mining company in 1934. Not exactly sure of this date. He became the owner of Armstrong Jewelry and Casting Company on Live Oak street. We lived there until the time he died in 1969. I went to Bullion Plaza when it was a middle school. graduated from Miami High school in 1968. Then on to Arizona State University in Tempe, Arizona. I have tears in my eyes when I see what Miami is now. The El Reye was one of our favorite places to go for good Mexican food.
Doing research on my grandfather who was a Miner Globe/Miami during 1920-1930 era. His name is Ralph Chavez. My grandparents live in Globe. Where my mother was born. Emma Chavez, Lucy, Francis.
Would like to know if my Grandfather was buried there? I know he had died from black lung.
Do you know if the miners were buried there?
Christine, I would suggest you contact the Gila Historical Museum. They have documents and volunteers who might be able to help you with your quest.
Renick was also married to my mom in the 50’s. He is my half brother, Joe’s biological father. He was born in 1955 and sadly passed away in 1975.
I had the honor of meeting him in the mid eighties when he had a holiday meal with us at my moms.
We have a piece of his art hanging in our hallway he did for my mom when she was married to him.
Great piece on a very cool soul
Kevin
I’m related to Joe. (Half sister) Please get in touch if you can, I’d like to know more about him.
Thanks for reaching out, Leslie. I am forwarding your contact information to Dr LJ Murphy.
How can I buy CC’s art?
Apparently, the wrecking ball used, bounced off building. Wish there was a photo in this article, to show how beautiful and magnificent that Building truley was.
Studying the arts at Eastern Arizona College I wanted to take ceramics from Bob but the class interfered with my work schedule. Bob offered to let me take the class at his home with my schedule in mind. We mined the clay and I learned how the pug mil worked and completed the most fascinating course – one of many memories.. Bob and Char were wonderful hosts and I will never forget another student was there at the same time and unfortunately parked within their fence and one of the goats decided to climb up on her vehicle, it was sad and funny at the same time. My hat is off to this wonderful couple.
Ask any old timer from Superior if he or she saw any Native Americans frequent the Oak Flats area before Resolution became interested in area and the answer would be NO. The only sham here is Chairman Rambler’s claims the area was of religious importance to the tribe.
I have got to hand it to the Chairman for mastering the art of pulling wool over the eyes of government bureaucracies…but on second thought that is not very hard to do.
This woman was so impressive. We used to live in Superior and were paid poorly by the motel owner, Ravi, so we could only afford to eat here once. We saved to go here for a special occasion and she treated my husband and I very well. We discovered that we had one of the books that Lucy authored so we went back and had her sign it.
If I ever had a reason to go back to that area I’d make it a point to eat at Jade Grill.
Love your shop! Got my postcard in the mail and live in the valley — am wondering IF Thursday is the only day for the Estate Trunk Show – otherwise I will be there on Saturday!
Great clothing that is different, eclectic and beautiful. My sister lives in Globe and everytime I visit her I shop at Simply Sarah’s. MY KIND OF SHOP!
I recently had a dealing w Candelario through Offero Home Buyers. Luckily I dodged a bullet. I was contacted by offero homes after searching we buy junk homes. From the get go they were sketchy. No one answered phones. I worked w a total of four people. The offero office called me two days before close and threatened if I didn’t lower the price they wouldn’t close. Closing day came and they were a no show. They listed my home for sale on Craigslist prior to our close date.. one of his own employees said he was a clever man who will try to bully you into lowering sell price. Total fraud!
Cool to see this subject getting recognition again!
I have recently discovered the Apache Cowboys on Youtube working in the area you have written about. I am amazed how these Apache Cowboys work as a complete team in roping and rounding up these wild Hereford cattle. They are very brave professional and fearless in their work. The apparently leader Apache Skiler and his horse Eagle is the BEST. keep the YouTube clips coming..😂
Outstanding simply outstanding from accommodations to staff!
What a wonderful story. My Father’s family was from Globe, last name Halby, my maiden name. Dad took us to Globe, in the summer of1960 . I don’t remember much, he took us the high school, the Catholic Church and the courthouse. We also explored a he cemetery, marveling at the years on the headstones. I couldn’t figure out why there we no flowers on the graves or green grass growing. I was five! I intend to return someday; to get a feel for the town my Dad grew up in in. He was born in 1922, one of 10 siblings. I love this history of this city.
My hats off to Freeport-McMoRan Mining for taking over the Cobre Valley Gold Course. It is not just about the money and the deep pockets McMoRan has but it is the level of expertise and management it brings to the table. For one of the largest Copper mine companies in the World, second best is just not good enough. You can see changes taking place from the cut of the grass to friendly smiles from the groundskeepers. This is a first class operation and it is bringing back the style and class of last centuries Roaring Twenties when the course was just beginning. The trees are mature, the fairway is a challenge and the holes manicured and well kept. My compliments to the management and feel that old Jim Bob Moffett is looking down from that great golf course in the Sky and saying well done boys. RIP Jim bob and you left us a legacy that will live on in the quiet solitude of a the park like surroundings of the course. In case you are wondering, the MO in McMoRan stands for Moffett. It was his way of paying back to the community that made him rich. I painted Jim Bob’s name on the bottom of a Rock out there and if you ever hit a ball that bounces off a rock and comes right back to the middle of the fairway, you know old Jim Bob was watching out for you.
Thank you for a wonderful story.
Tonto Gravity Riders. (T.G.R) is here to stay and we are up to the task. we are glad to help the community in any way possible. this is just a small part of what we love to do. filling sandbags was a success and we were happy to be there for the community.
Women on average make less because they choose lower paying less dangerous jobs, I don’t see women on oil rigs, doing roofing, or anything to that degree. This is just extreme feminism and outright lies, after reading this I’m going to call them and tell them don’t pass it, smh.
This was so fun for me to read. My father was Allan Robertson. I, too worked in my Dad’s drugstore and worked at the fountain. I can remember those men come in for coffee when I worked in the summer. I thank whoever posted this as it meant so much for me to read it and remember all the people mentioned in it.
Thank you for the comment. We were so lucky to have John Michael Benson write this for us and add the story to the archives of history.
I grew up in Globe and I always loved the old downtown storefronts. It was very sad to me to watch it get lost. People tried to modernize most of those historic buildings and destroyed the looks. I have now lived in Aspen, Colorado for almost 50 years. It was founded as a mining town one year before Globe and here they kept and restored the integrity and class of the old buildings. I live in a beautiful place made more so by the lovely old buildings. Globe could have gone that way, but didn’t. It’s a shame. I would love to see some rules and regs put in place to restore as much as possible of the old buildings. It would greatly improve the look of my old hometown.
My wife and I ended up in Globe because we couldn’t find a hotel room in Phoenix and we loved it. My wife is Cornish although it has to be admitted that none of her ancestors have ever been down a mine as they were fishermen. There was an open house day and we went into different homes and we were made so welcome. On returning home I read that Globe was a dump plagued by drug use but that isn’t the way we saw it as we thought it was wonderful and so friendly.
When we visited my wife’s family in Padstow, Cornwall much as I loved it for me the highlight of the trip was the two giant pasties my wife’s mum made for the journey home!
Thanks for weighing in on your experience in Globe! I am a transplant myself, having moved here in 2001 and I love the people and the community in Globe. If you ever have a chance to make it back, Copper Bistro serves giant pasties every Thursday!
I used to work for Michael. I trusted him. Even when my wife and other people told me not to. He owes me 4k and by the end of the month, it will be over 26k. By the time all my deals, I got while working for him and it closes this year. He will owe me over 50k. If anyone can help with its situation. Please give me a call at 702-301-5054
He has a company called Offerohomes and he continues to scam people
He started a new company called WLA LABS, Who changed their name to REI MANAGEMENT , he’s about to be handled in court trust me. We got em this time. Search the company names above and you will get info on how to find him. Hope this helps,
I’m trying to get everybody who has been affected by these guys to come together and go after all of them as a group. I think this will be the only way to take them down and put them behind bars
What does your research tell you about the Yavapai War Headdress since history and historians have misidentified Yavapai as (Apache) (Mojave-Apache) (Yuma-Apache)?
I am Hia-Ced O’Odham , some writings said we were Apache Like also. Could we have been the ones you wrote about ? We were nomadic and our biggest Village was in Dome Az. Prof Bunny Fontana wrote about us also and so did Lumholtz .
Could I get information on how I can request a 4 way stop signs on the corners of
Sycamore and Devereaux. We currently have a 2 way stop on Devereaux but every single day people love to race up the hill going east on Sycamore. We have School kids that walk this intersection also have kids scat boarding N an S down in Devereaux. Being that car’s race going east up on Sycamore someone is going to get hurt. Information please… Thank you
My address is 160 S Devereaux
I worked for Offero Homes around the beginning of 2021 and it was like PULLING TEETH to get PAID. I still have clients calling ME months after I left the company because they are owed money and there’s nothing I can do to help them because I barely got out of there with getting paid myself. DO NOT WORK WITH MICHAEL OR OFFERO. The bounced checks are absolutely true. You would think after all the complaints of bounced checks he would get his s*** together but he truly does not CARE. If he doesn’t f*** you over immediately he eventually will.
I’d like to know more, were you with his company between June 2021 and Sep 2021? Does a property on Glenrosa Ave ring a bell? Just wondering, thanks for sharing your story, we had a feeling the employees were being mistreated and that this guy was running a company on fire. He was directing the employees to do awful things to the people they worked with, nobody has a problem with the employees, Im surprised you got paid anything. His day is coming soon in court. I will be compiling all of these stories to. add to the court case. Thanks
Please contact me if you want to be involved with all the individuals who have been affected by these guys. There is power in numbers
Please refer them to me, I’ll be happy to include them with the rest of us!
Am humbled with this article good job uncle
In the eighteen years that i lived in Globe there has never been to my knowledge a desire to improve the desirability to visit/live in Globe until about three years ago. People began to become involved through both personal projects and public events. Upon reading this article I see that an administrative ‘road block’ has been attempted to ‘poo-poo’ the use of allies for other than trash storage. Most of the alleys were built to model ‘A’ standards thus most of the fire apparatus would not be able to transit them [only laying lines could be done], trash haulers have previously complained of the width of the alleys, the utility lines are just ‘nailed’ to the walls without concern for access or functionality and homeless/transients sometimes use the alley as a temporary refuge. As i read the article there was more negativity to the idea in the name of ‘due diligence’ and not enough ‘how can it be accomplished.’
I agree with you. It’s easier to get a dog park approved than anything special for the kids.
Thank you Thea! One step at a time that’s what we need to be taking. And this is a big step in the right direction.
This is great news! Thank you for laying it out so clearly. I wrote letters to congressmen and representatives several times about how wrong that mine was. I belongs to the Apache people and all the rest of us. It should never have been considered for foreign countries to profit from. Thank you.
Would love to purchase a cabin on Pinals….
If any owner is interested in selling….
Please contact me….
602-478-4193
Well sorry but johnny died on the 27th of December not the 20th. He is my uncle. I miss him so. Sadly the day he died is my father’s birthday.that hurt us so bad.
Hi Heidi
This article you wrote is about my great Aunt.
It’s so good I sure thank you. I knew just a little bit about her and what her And my uncle went thru back then.
It makes me want to know more since We seem to be living through the same types of things today. They say that history repeats itself every hundred years.
I am looking for a book, a copy of which was given to my mother by (unknown) . It was a factual diary of a families quest to recover from a drought in Colorado . They traveled by wagon and horseback with their cattle ,many of which were surrendered to Mexican Banditos along the way to avoid conflict . They crossed the Salt River by dismantling the wagons and other large items , so they could lower them down then up the other side , where they would have to re-assemble them to continue . Furthermore, they eventually settled in what (I believe to be) Globe , and found a cork barked tree to use to make bottle stoppers . One of my favorite quotes is “We made 14 miles today , a good day for travel.” . It was written (I believe) by the daughter from her Grandmothers Diary . It is a wonderfully written book , and I would like to find another copy to pass it down to my Family . I loaned it out and forgot who I lent it to .
My name is George Stevens (III), I currently am living in southern Oregon (Medford), bob Stevens is my younger brother. I too remember the days as a kid spending a lot of time at the ranch, n we’ve hunted in that region a lot growing up. Our dad George W. Stevens n mom introduced us siblings to the mountains where he grew up as a kid, n it became instilled in our hearts n soul. There’s truly a lot of history there on the San Carlos Apache reservation, my Homeland where I grew up. I return to the reservation every so often n it’s always good to be home again…
Hello, I worked at R-100 and Slaughter Mountain in the 1960’s. George Stevens was the boss at R-100. I might have known you, as I stayed there at Horse Camp and camped at R-100 also. I wonder if you know of any books with true accounts of the ranching on San Carlos. I have Getty”s book. I really am interested in the time when white company’s leased grazing from the Tribe. I would appreciate any information you are willing to share. I live in Red Bluff, California, not far from Medford.
Nice story, David, well-presented and up-to-date. This is a story that should be told my the MSM instead of panic all the time. Keep it up!
Hi my name is Tabitha. My father is buried at the pinball cemetery. I desperately need to come and visit. I was told his grave has no headstone. He was buried there in 2007. How do I find out the info I need to find him?
Tabitha, I would contact the Gila Historical Museum and see if they can help you. I also know there are volunteers here with Find a Grave who are working on documenting local gravesites.
Hello I’m wondering how to tell or find out more information on a property?
Any of the local realtors can give you information or you could try the Court house.
Thank God when will you be here in Globe??
I attended Hill Street School from Kindergarten through 4th grade (1950-1954). At that time Hill Street became. Junior High and we were sent to East Globe School. I returned for the two years of Junior High. When I was a freshman at ASU, an instructor I had for a preschool activities class asked if any of us had seen the sad school in Globe, AZ with the blacktop playground and no playground equipment. He remarked that he didn’t know how anyone made it through that school. I commented that we drew hopscotch and baseball diamonds on the blacktop with chalk; we played jacks on the concrete steps, we played chase and many other things. Recess was never dull, never long enough. The library was on the rounded end of the second floor. I loved the construction of Hill Street School. The inside had shiny waxed wood flooring. The gym had a balcony where we stood to watch sports. I can still rekindle the smell of wax from the hallways. I hope the Hill Street School building will always be on that corner.
Thank you for this. My mom went to Noftsger Hill in the late 50’s and has a remarkable story about segregation. I’m on a hunt for images and history of that time.
cheers
Jim
Thanks, Jim, I feel honored to have had the opportunity to write this story, which is such an important reminder of wrongs made right in our Arizona history, and a well deserved tribute to Daisy Moore and Marietta Bryant.
I’d love to hear your wife’s story,
Libby
My father was a member of that amazing team!! Elias Delgadillo Huerta. I’m fortunate to have an signed copy given to me by Sonny.
This is such an incredible project! One more big reason to visit my old stomping grounds Globe-Miami! So looking forward to seeing this in petson!
My GG grandfather, Georgio Carasco Armendariz (Armindariz) is buried in Pinal Cemetery, Central Heights.
Golden Hill Central Heights, Gila County, Arizona, 85539. It looks like the grave is unmarked. How can I find the location of his grave? I have newspaper info, death certificate, etc. I want to find him. Is there any index /map that I can look at?
Thank you to all who can help.
Gina, we would recommend you get in touch with Gila Historical Museum.
Thank yu.
I so wish some of these stores in Globe had online stores as well for those of us that have moved out of state … and don’t get back home as often as I would like.
I was a ten year old student at Inspiration Addition in Miami in 1951. My Dad worked at Miami copper company. I remember these great athletes and was in awe of them. Coach Kivisto left Miami after the 1951 championship season as he had promised his wife that they could leave but not until he had won a State CHAMPIONSHIP. THESE GUYS LITERALLY DEMOLISHED ALL OPPOSITION AND WERE CONSIDERED THE BEST TEAM EVER IN Arizona!
How would I go about applying for a job?
I’ve reached out to MCC, but have yet to receive a reply. Here is a link to the “careers” page of the Mohave Cannabis Co.
I would start there. If I hear anything more specific, I will add to this thread. Thank you for reading!
do you have any idea when mcc will open in globe ?
I recently heard from MCC and there has been a delay, but they are back on track. Sara Presler said she would let me know when they are going to open. Hopefully, it will not be too much longer. I will do my best to get the word out.
I’m glad to have Mohave are here cause I have arthritis and I can’t stand the pain.
Michelle is the best choice for this honor, she has worked hard for Globe and will add to the Rural Leadership for Arizona. Congratulations!
What happened to the grand opening? Can you do a follow up article please?
We currently don’t have a date for the grand opening, but construction has been underway. We will update you when we get information.
Steps into the pool were mentioned. Will there be a zero entry entrance? Will the pool be open year round for things like water aerobics?
Hi Angela,
Yes, the pool will have a zero entry. The City Manager has said they will keep the pool open into the fall/winter as long as people are using it. It will be heated. If you have more questions, I’m sure the people at the City would be happy to give you details.
Patricia
Capstone and the Unions deserve commendation for their respectful and constructive relationship that benefits employers, employees, and the surrounding communities. I salute them on this Labor Day in celebration of their new contract!
We live in Lake Havasu City AZ bordering AZ and Ca. There is no one out here to service my Gibson Mastertone. Do you know of anyone out this way who can?
Hi, Barbara,
I reached out to Douglas to see if he knew of anyone and he did not. Here is his reply:
“No, unfortunately I don’t know anybody out that way. If it were me, I’d expect to have to go into the SoCal/LA area. To get a good experienced Gibson tech. You don’t want the average music store luthier, and it sounds like they already know that.”
Best of luck to you, Thea
Sorry
I am very interspersed in a career with this dispensary company. Are there any current updates on the application process
Looking for my mom’s plot know general area but. How do I. Get help finding exact sight so O can Honor mom
If anyone is wanting to sell their cabin, I would be interested.
It is a shame that former City of Globe LibrarianEllen Waters is never mentioned as the person who came up with the idea of digitalizing the newspapers.
She came to the Arizona Silver Belt about six months before she retired with the idea. She spoke to me about it and I spoke to the publisher/editor who was interested in pursuing the idea as he had no roots here and only wanted to raise circulation.
When I retired I was asked to be on the Museum Board, which at the time numbered about ten people.
The Miami Town Council was concerned that the museum didn’t seem to be making much progress and they asked for monthly reports to the council. I told Chairman Sanchez and the members about Ms Waters idea and Joe asked me to go to the next meeting and tell them about it I did and the council embraced the idea. I wrote the first grant and it was turned down by the Arizona Historical Society, but they encouraged me to re-work it Before I could do that Mr Foster asked for my work and had someone else work on it to ptesent to Freeport. That was accepted and the work took off under LeeAnn’s expertise and continued flare for keeping us all informed
The only difference between Ellen’s idea and what it is today, is that she and I thought the public would be allowed to do their own research topics.
I often wished I could contact Ms Waters and let her know how well her idea worked once it became a reality
do you do shelters for rv
Dear Mr. Jones,
You will need to contact Gila Monster Construction directly to inquire about services and fees.
Best Regards,
Linda
Hey anyone who has been screwed over by anyone with the name Candelario or Candelario Vargas, we’re working on taking them down. Please email me at Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com. The more people we have the better!
I tried to find the fundraiser for cats on the Facebook page (according to the article “A heart for cats”but have not found it. Would you send me a link? Thanks.
Susan,
Very sorry for the delay! We ran into a glitch on receiving funds and finding a fix for that. As soon as we have it Ill let you know.
They ignore many
I was born and raised in Globe and was always told stories about Geronimo. We were told that he was tried in the old Globe court house and escaped to the mountains around Safford. I am looking for information on that part of his life. Do you know if that is mentioned in this book. I do know the Pickle Barrel and will try to order this book. Do you know if there is a more comprehensive book about Geronimo? Thank you
We are unaware of other books on Geronimo, but good sources for additional information would include the Gila County Historical Museum, Bullion Plaza Museum, and the Arizona Archives. Good luck.
So many people are disposed of who turn out to be worth their weight in gold as neighbors and friends, able to finally put their energy towards other things than survival once their housing is stable. Thank you Barbara and the other volunteers and staff who continue to work towards a more kind and just world.
-My GG Grandparents are buried in the Globe Cemetry in unmarked graves. John Raymond Howard Sr, in1877, and Rebecca (nee) Wood Howard 1915. Any information would be great, if anyone has any. Great article.
Tabitha,
I was at the cemetary a few days ago. I saw a grave marked Tabitha. I just made a video of the outing. I prospect gold and explore old places. It will be on my YouTube channel in a couple weeks. Regardless the marker stood out to me. Because the marker stood out you should be able to find it. The name Tabitha I had never heard so it stood out to me. Strange that I saw you post. Good Luck.
Me again and I have some information to share as far as this family is concerned and the crimes they commit. It’s been brought to my attention that in addition to the Candelario’s there are possibly two other scam artists involved and if anyone has been affected or had any interaction with them, please contact me and share your story. If you don’t want to be involved in any prosecution or lawsuits that are going to be filed, that is ultimately your decision and I will respect that decision and there will be no pressure placed trying to get you to change your mind. My door will always be open and you are welcome to join us if you end up changing your mind. Please know that any information anyone shares as well as any contact information you provide, will not be shared with anyone without your consent. I might share portions of what is shared with me but not include where the information came from, unless you advise me not to. I will always respect everyone’s privacy and am only doing this in order to make sure that these scammers don’t hurt anyone else ever again and are held accountable for the crimes committed against all of their victims..
The two other possible scammers are Nehemiah Hutchinson and Anthony Delgado. Please reach out if you have any information pertaining to these two that you can share with me or if you or someone you know has been affected by any of these guys.
The Candelario family has committed fraud against people outside of the state of Arizona as well.. All of them share the middle name Alexander and go by the last name Candelario, Vargas or Candelario Vargas and include their father Alexander C Candelario. The brothers are Michael, Greg and Jeremy.
As of today, Wednesday April 12, 2023 there are approximately 15 people who have fallen victim to these guys and are working together to ensure they don’t get off this time. What they are doing is wrong and I hope they never get to hurt another person.
From the beginning, things didn’t feel right. I was coerced into signing to sell my mom’s house. It is the end of the deal & I’m the only one left who hasn’t signed. This man & his attorney “Kristina Cat” are ruthless & manipulative. They say they’re filing with the court today. He offered $800/mo for a year if I’d sign the papers. Says I’m “playing games”. The only consistency with these guys is inconsistency. I pray he’s dealt with before this is over. I’m in Northern Arizona
Hi Kathy, we noticed a house on MC-85 in buckeye for sale. We have totally fallen in love with the home and we are trying to go through the process of buying. We realized the owner was Michael Candelario and after doing research we found this thread which you state his agent / attorney is ‘Kristina Cat’. We have been dealing with her but are now worried after seeing this. If there is any additional information you can share please email me at desrod19@icloud.com
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
FYI “Kristina Cat” is a realtor in AZ as well. Aka Sabbagh.
https://homesmart.com/real-estate-agent/arizona/scottsdale/29634-kristina-sabbagh/Welcome
It looks like she’s a real estate attorney able to practice in AZ.
Ms Kristina Cat Esq
kristina@sabbaghlaw.net
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
He left the town of Fernley Nevada, owing people a hell of a lot of money for working in a business. He had all of their checks bounced toward the end., he is a real piece of work.
Can you please reach out to me? My contact information is in previous messages
Hi this is Charlotte, please contact me at 240-428-0163 or Condelarioscasualties@gmail.com
This is a fabulous idea!! It’s wonderful to see towns embracing their history and not always looking to replace the old with new. And the added art is a bonus. I will definitely be coming to Globe to check out this trail. Thanks for preserving your history to share with the rest of us.
Hi, Kathy. We’re so glad you discovered our trail! You can hike it on your own at any time or join a monthly 2-hour docent-lead tour that is packed with information about the artists, local history, and the architecture you’ll see along the way. These are usually the first Saturday morning of each month, though they will be stopped during the summer with the extreme heat. We hope to see you in Globe soon!
The problem in the Globe area stems from people who don’t think they need to keep their dogs in their yard. Many dog owners here keep aggressive outdoor animals in order to ward off strangers. I’ve lived in the Tucson and Albuquerque metro areas and various places on the California coast, and never had a problem with walking or bicycling along city or country streets in those places. But Globe is a different story. It’s common here to see loose dogs on city streets or on country roads leading toward the Pinals. My husband and I have been chased and bitten by loose dogs and wound up in the ER on different occasions. My hiking and bicycling friends have stories about being chased by dogs that run after them from certain homes. City and county officials point fingers at each other and won’t take responsibility. This issue has turned into a public safety and quality of life issue.
His Band ministered at the church I was saved at in the 1970s. I use to have a cassette tape of their music.
I recall his sister passing in a car accident on her way to tell her parents that she had gotten right with God at a revival meeting that evening. I remember his brother Michael. ( Bear) attending our church (which was named Globe Christian Center later). He has since passed.
That band was annointed by God. They had a true passion to see souls saved. Jesus is the Only way.
This is a wonderful idea! Someone posted about it on the Historical Southwest Facebook group today. I will be happy to visit Globe to check the progress!
Laurie Tyler
Nicely done article. Brought back some old memories. I grew up in the old Housing Project in Claypool, went to grade school at Lower Miami and graduated from Miami High in 1960.
In 1955 (as I recall) my Dad took me to see the movie “Red Skies of Montana” at the Alden Theatre in Globe. That was the day I decided I wanted to be a Forest Ranger in Montana when I grew up. In pursuit of that dream, the summer I turned 18, I started fighting fire as a “pickup” out of the Globe Ranger Station of the Tonto National Forest where I first worked as a summer fire patrolman and then as the Signal Peak lookout for a couple of years in the Pinal Mountains
In 1964 I enrolled in what was then the School of Forestry at Arizona State College in Flagstaff and graduated with 12 classmates in 1968. My BSF in hand, I began working my way up through the career ranks as a fire specialist primarily in California, and Montana. My dream was jump-started when I was assigned to a regional overhead fire crew out of Pollock Pines, CA.
But my dream lived on. Primarily because of my fire experience, the Montana State Forester’s Office contacted me soon after my sophomore year at NAU had been completed. They were persistent. I arrived in Missoula in December, 1968. The path to my dream was a long, winding one but well worth it.
In 1983 I ended up joining the Washington, D.C. staff of a US Senator from Idaho where I served as his personal advisor for issues related to forestry, wildlife and mining. He decided to retire in 1991 but had paved a path for me to remain in D.C. as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Agriculture whose primary job was to oversee the political operation of the US Forest Service. By that time, I had grown older and perhaps even a bit wiser. As a result, I decided to get off the government path and look for a job that made ME happy. Fortunately, I found it!
In 2003, my wife and I built our home here on our own little piece of heaven in Northwestern Montana where we intend to live happily ever after … THE END!
I worked with Gary at Dunavant Cotton Co. in Phoenix back in the late 80s. He is a great person and was fantastic to work with. He was quick to share knowledge and quick to instill strength and confidence in me as a younger worker. I am glad I found this article and I hope to meet Gary again some day.
Hi Thea!
It was great to meet you at the Rural Policy Forum in Globe/Miami, and learn about the Stairizona art project! I love the idea and would like to bring something like it to my AZ community. I will be in touch regarding!
Thank you for setting a wonderful example of what can be done to unite artists and communities across AZ!
Thanks, Susan. Looking forward to connecting again. Our new organization, Love Where You Live, would be delighted to help replicate this work in other towns. We just need champions for a place… and it sounds like you are one such person!
Can anyone tell me the name of the guy who did high school radio football in 1959 for station KIKO? I have audio tape of a Miami-Phoenix Christian game on November 13, 1959. I am writing a book that includes the game. Thank you so much.
My granddaughter who passed away just before she turned 16. “SHASTA LYNN TAYLOR”. She had been a member of Lynn’s school of dance. Oh, She loved to dance. She also played sports I’m not to sure how much she loved sports, she was playing out fielder and she looked so cute in her uniform but then we noticed this darling little outfielder was out there Clogging up a storm. When it gets boring why not dance. Haha , she is a sweetheart and she is missed terribly Nana
It’s not really, officially named the William A. Sullivan Bridge. We’ve done extensive checking into that matter and we can assure you it isn’t officially named for Sullivan. If you doubt it you, too, can check with ADOT and the Arizona State Archivist. The confusion began when famed postcard photographer Burton Frasher arbitrarily labeled the bridge “William A. Sullivan” on one of his postcards. Those postcards are still in circulation on eBay and they continue to contribute to the confusion. Sullivan certainly deserved to have his name enshrined somewhere on highway US 60. His “good roads” boosterism was exceptional and truly remarkable.
Thanks so much for that correction! Interesting to see how easily false information can get started and then spread. Goes to show you can’t trust anything you read, even on a postcard.
Well , it’s becoming more apparent by the day that the Global cannibis facility in downtown Globe is Never going to open as a dispensary, nor a smoke shop as it sits in the same condition as when this article was published.
And I’ve also heard that their Grow facility has had the power to the building shut off because they weren’t paying their electric bill which is several Hundred thousand dollars which will have to be paid before their power will be restored. Perhaps The GM times should look into this so that the people will know what is happening. Too bad that the last lottery for the last Gila County apparently went to another part of the County, and not Globe cannabis. And the whole industry is being held up by 80 year old, clueless politicians who are bought and paid for by The big Pharmaceutical companies.
I am purchasing the 109 S Broad Street building and while researching the historical archives saw it is listed as once having an Upton’s confectionary store. Is this correct? Do you know of any photos showing this? I’m excited to discover more about this beautiful building’s history! Thank you!
Christine, Congratulations on your purchase! I would suggest you check in with the Gila Historical Museum and see what they can offer in terms of history.
I remember those days when I was younger I worked at ash Creek ranch I remember herding cattle to cavlva and one group of cowboys would herd the bulls and the steers first and I remember I was with the cowboys that herded the cow and calves and we were the last one to herdthed the cattle from ash Creek ranch to yellow jacket and camp there for the night and wake up at four o’clock and have breakfast and round up the herd of cattle that were in the pasture and head them down the road to cavlva and when we got to the highway the ash Creek cowboys would ride their horses from calva camp and tell us to go eat at camp by then it would be noon time and after we ate we would put our tee pee tent up and our bed and bedroll in the tent and we would rest up and it was a long journey on horseback then
I was raised in that house my dad worked as a supervisor I was very young and we moved I was around 16 I miss it a lot that has always been my home
Hi: My name is Richard Jasper. I was married to Rose Virginia Limon. After my wife passed in 2015 I started working on our family tree, and recently found that my wife had a baby sister named
Rosa Mendoza “Baby” Limon – Born 5 Sept 1926 and Died 26 May 1927
The only other thing is a reference to a “Memorial ID” 205013522 / Not sue what that means?
According to what I can find is that she was buried in the Pinal Cemetery – (Central Heights, Gila County, Arizona, USA) – Is this the same cemetery? If so, is there any one that might have any old records that might show or prove that her body might or could have been moved to Needles California by her parents around 1941 when the whole family moved out of Arizona to work in the salt mines in Amboy California.
I have found that there is a Grave Marker for
Baby Dimples Limon – 1941 Plot b4s15g7
buried in the Needles Riverview Cemetery / (Needles California) right next to her parents
Jose Carmen Limon – Plot b4s15g5 5-18-1982
Antonia M Limon – Plot b4s15g6 6-3-1971
I sure wish I would have started all this research when my wife’s siblings were still alive, (we lost the last of 9 sibling in October 2023). So know I am looking for answers and can’t seem to find any.
Hopefully there is someone out there that might be able to find any old records or clues?
Thanks in advance.
Richard
My grandmother, her parents. my dad and my baby sister are in this cemetery. I have only been there a few times. I’ve tried to do a little work while visiting. Very sad that it’s not taken care of
Good morning! I recently read your article in Arizona Highways magazine and I am interested in either taking the guided tour, or possibly just walking through as much of the 6.4 miles of trail myself. The article states tours are only on the first Saturday of each month, up to May. Are there any openings for the month of April? What time does the tour start? How long (miles) is the tour? I am hoping to do the entire trail, but I know it would be too much for my wife. Are different tour lengths available?
It has been about three years since our last visit to Globe. Your new trail sounds like a perfect reason to visit again. Keep up your great work and efforts!
Hi, Tim. I’m so glad you’re interested in the Stairizona Trail. I’m one of the people who leads the tours and we’re trying to have a regular one each month, but will also schedule personal tours for small groups. The tour usually lasts about two hours and explores the shorter route, which is about 1.4 miles. If your wife cannot walk this, we have indicated on the map which art projects are viewable from a car. Quite a few can be seen that way. There is a map of the trail on the Globe Miami Times website, if you’d like to download it. Please feel free to email us at livable2lovable@google.com or call our hotline at (808) 373-0032.
Thanks, Thea
When I was five years old, I moved there with my folks in 1956 from a ranch in northern California where my dad was the foreman. He ran the Chrysotile mine from April 1956 until October 1957 when the owner closed the mine after the government stopped buying asbestos. We then moved into Globe, and my dad worked at Inspiration Copper until he retired. My folks had been in a riding club in southern California in the 40’s with the mine owner and his wife. He needed someone to run the mine, and hired my dad, Walter Jenkins. The owner’s name was Ed Town, and his company was Western Fiber. He also owned Asbestos Peak.
Great addition to the story of this mine! Thanks, L
We’ve gotten quite a few questions about First Fridays and whether the City collects vendor fees and if the increase in sales tax can be used to cover this event.
Here is part of the answer: The City underwrites everything for First Friday. It’s free to have a Vendor booth there. But they do require vendors to charge sales tax. And they do require a business license. It’s wonderful if they can put on an event like this for free – for everyone – each month, but no other bed tax organization has the luxury of putting their events on… without figuring out ways to pay for them. So some of them do have to charge vendor booth fees. Or find sponsorships. Or – as in the Halloween on Broad, they do it for free, but ask the businesses to plan on investing $500 in candy to hand out. All for the good of community. So we should support that. Commend that. The City steps in to help with police and fire. A huge collaboration which is both appreciated and needed for such an event. If the City wants to spend more money on First Friday, then perhaps they can get creative – like the Bed Tax organizations must – and find a way to make it sustainable by charging. IE: Charging for those novelty items like a snow globe or ice skating rink, charging a vendor booth fee, etc. I hope these and other things will be considered before they make a case for taking money from this fund at the expense of others.
Another issue which is coming up quite a bit is how the City arrived at an equal split between the organizations rather than the splits they agreed to in the past. This seems the fairest way to distribute bed tax money to some on Council.
Here is something to consider: Yes, The City believes their proposal to Split the bed tax fund “evenly” between entities is fair. This essentially reduces the distribution of 4 of the five organizations while increasing one slightly and adding the First Fridays. As many readers have pointed out, the argument that First Fridays is driving out-of-town traffic partly hinges on numbers collected from a phone app showing lots of 480, 520 and 602 prefixes in downtown Globe. But, again, as people have pointed out, half of the people they know have their original phone#s, and so this is a questionable statistic if it is used to justify more money into First Friday.
The idea that it is best practice to split everyone evenly is not something most would use to manage for best results. Some organizations are open 6 or 7 days a week and see larger numbers of visitors; Some are tasked with maintaining historic buildings, so important to a historic downtown like ours, which generate huge interest around the state. Some manage larger staffs than others. Some host more events than others. Some have NO overhead…
How can it be Best Practice to pay everyone the same amount?
…And, just like the NFL where NFL players’ salaries vary widely based on their position, experience and performance during a season, paying everyone the same is not the way to go. Can you imagine if an NFL owner told a team next season, we are going to average out salaries and pay everyone the same?
A great story about a great couple!
This looks delightful…but where can I park a vehicle without having it towed?
Globe has abundant free parking, both on the street and in multiple city parking lots. Additionally, there is a huge parking lot at the start of the Stairizona Trail that can hold at least 25 cars. Look for the star on the map to identify the trailhead location. Hope to see you in Globe soon.
Hi Charlotte,
I left you a voicemail. Please call me back at 602-218-2814. Maria.
Where is the sign up for the Saturday hikes?? I’m not able to locate it! Thanks for this wonderful opportunity!
Kip did remarkable things to downtown. Every time I visit Globe I remark how much better it looks from when we lived there. I remember having many conversations with Kip about his vision and I am so happy to see that he accomplished most them!
KJZZ reported today that Wendy Rogers and David Cook will be on the Primary ballot. “Judge John Blanchard did throw out hundreds of Cook’s signatures — 563 of the 1,344 signatures he filed — but that left Cook with well more than the 595 he needed to qualify.
“You’re darn right, I’m staying on the ballot,” Cook said.
The ruling ensures what is expected to be a heated primary between the more moderate Cook and far-right Rogers in Legislative District 7 which includes part of Coconino, Gila, Navajo and Pinal counties.”
A Globe landmark!!!
I remember going there as a kid with family. When we moved into town I would go there on my way home from the Globe Theatre or during lunch at GHS.
I’m absolutely thrilled to have found three tiles in a resale shop in Texas. I am the proud owner of the roadrunner tile, the quail tile and the woodpecker tile.
Hello this is Joycelene Johnson, I would like to correct the following two items:
1. I never attended SCUSD schools. I attended 10 schools K-12 and I graduated from Globe High School but I taught Pre-K through 12 with the SCUSD.
2. I worked with San Carlos Apache Planning Department as the Language Preservation Coordinator for 2 years, currently I am not associated with the San Carlos Apache Tribe’s Language Program.
i am the nephew of Marie Hachtel. I am doing research on her. We have a family scholarship fund in her name at NAU for graduates of GHS. If this is still an active site, i would love to hear from you